I think it is the Goal you are trying to achive which going to dictate what you choose.If a pellet rifle or pistol of any kind can not shoot less than 1/2" at 30 yards in not good enough,yes springers do count in that group. Going farther out and keeping 1/2" groups is going to take more money and better equipment.
Take into count the shooters ability to be able to use the equiment he has before is the number one goal.

Scotay42 said:

All of them. Lol, it all comes down to preference. Right or left cocking, weight, trigger feel, shot cycle, etc. So many uses or needs as well.

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I feel like an accurate rifle at the bench should hit target on game as well...weight would be the factor i suppose but weight can be added and removed i think?

Annodized. Tuned range to 45ft lbs to 70ftlbs. Accuracy test later!

Matt247365 said:

What will you be shooting at?
What distances?
From a bench?
In the field?

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Bench in my yard and in the Texas brush. proly not past 100yds but would be fun to shoot way out at targets.

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RMCIV said:

What would be a good first premium pcp? I've been looking at the RTI Mora, what others should I consider?

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I will be shooting target and hunting..from mice to white tail deer and hog and it needs to do all I can spend 5k but not 20k I'm thinking a 30 cal. I could be wrong but think fpe for deer in my state is 250.

Cantona256 said:

I use a Bluetooth speaker and a few prerecorded full sets from Predator University mixed in with a bunch of sounds I’ve picked along the way. Your situation is similar to mine. They are super highly pressured so some different sounds works. Woodpecker sounds work sometimes, I have a whole new set of an owl attacking various rodents… I also use an open read caller for a howl or too but mostly just to make a really dramatic rabbit distress. You might try a squeaker? Desert dogs eat a lot of mice I think.

The best thing you can do and I don’t do enough of this is drive around at night. Get to a spot you think might have coyotes and just put the caller out the window and play locator howls. If you hear anything that’s your sign. It’s still denning season for a few more weeks so their ranges aren’t huge yet… I’m still going coyote sounds and pup distress before I do any prey distress. The advantage I have in Utah is NV and in my county we can spot light. I do all my calling at night right now. They are not so much “dawn and dusk” this time a year. When it’s super hot I see them more from like 2am until just before sunrise. If the jackrabbits are out and about the coyotes will be too.

Once the weather cools I’m still gonna call still but mostly I’m gonna try out a pressure baiting scheme… freeze all your bloody critters and scrap in a 5 gallon bucket with water. I have a couple spots on BLM near my house where I’ll just dump the baitcicles… first week or two I’ll bait frequently and not hunt. After that I’ll continue to bait but shoot the ones I see… when it starts to get really cold I’ll bait less and maybe only once a week. From what I understand if you do it right they can get so desperate for the free meal they can be pretty reckless.

Good luck broski.

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It's free range out here in Arizona, cattle can go wherever the hell they want pretty much. These coyotes will follow a pregnant cow and wait until she's giving birth and move in. There's some in the tree line right now

It is a .22 CAL, and the barrel measures ~ 18" to the suppressor and 23" to the end of the suppressor. I'd be selling gun w/ scope included.
EDIT: Not sure about mod. Is that modified? In that case I don't know but suspect it has not been modified.

CoolPeacefulEasyFeeling said:

Well, its seems mine is on the way; too bad I wont be here next week to get my greedy hands on it when it arrives; at least I will have something to report on my return. Honestly, I just can't wait to take it apart.

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Right on, I just checked and mine will be here Monday.

Cantona256 said:

I use a Bluetooth speaker and a few prerecorded full sets from Predator University mixed in with a bunch of sounds I’ve picked along the way. Your situation is similar to mine. They are super highly pressured so some different sounds works. Woodpecker sounds work sometimes, I have a whole new set of an owl attacking various rodents… I also use an open read caller for a howl or too but mostly just to make a really dramatic rabbit distress. You might try a squeaker? Desert dogs eat a lot of mice I think.

The best thing you can do and I don’t do enough of this is drive around at night. Get to a spot you think might have coyotes and just put the caller out the window and play locator howls. If you hear anything that’s your sign. It’s still denning season for a few more weeks so their ranges aren’t huge yet… I’m still going coyote sounds and pup distress before I do any prey distress. The advantage I have in Utah is NV and in my county we can spot light. I do all my calling at night right now. They are not so much “dawn and dusk” this time a year. When it’s super hot I see them more from like 2am until just before sunrise. If the jackrabbits are out and about the coyotes will be too.

Once the weather cools I’m still gonna call still but mostly I’m gonna try out a pressure baiting scheme… freeze all your bloody critters and scrap in a 5 gallon bucket with water. I have a couple spots on BLM near my house where I’ll just dump the baitcicles… first week or two I’ll bait frequently and not hunt. After that I’ll continue to bait but shoot the ones I see… when it starts to get really cold I’ll bait less and maybe only once a week. From what I understand if you do it right they can get so desperate for the free meal they can be pretty reckless.

Good luck broski.

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Nvgs would be great but yeah in Arizona can't hunt with them only red light. Another thing is you can't put out trail cams in Arizona either. I know they're out here but my timing is off. Every time I see him I have my Pulsar 177 with me. Now when I go out I always have the 30

try as you may,it won't change what is.

borne2fly said:

My wife hasn’t shown much interest in my airgun tinkering, until now. I made the mistake of handing her the MP40, saying “here, give it a try”. On full auto. I’ve created a monster .

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I guess maybe sorry to hear that…lol…we all make that mistake…lol.. was getting tired of hearing that you spend more time with your guns than you do me ..she wasn’t lying about that…lol..so I let her give it a try…on my Super Redhawk.44 Magnum…told her to be careful with this big boy…not sure if she had her eyes closed but she blasted the X out with one shot…I asked her to do it again..she said no and told all my friends that she was a better shot …I let her have that one…it kept the peace for many years…lol…I say you got to give a little to get a lot…lol

Like it was said above it depends on your wants/needs.

There’s a lot of really nice guns out there if you wanna spend some money.

RMCIV said:

What would be a good first premium pcp? I've been looking at the RTI Mora, what others should I consider?

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What will you be shooting at?
What distances?
From a bench?
In the field?

That Vulcan is a beast.

My first PCP was a Benjamin Bulldog 357

75 years places the HW 50's initial production at 1950, which is correct. I don't know what the original "V" stood for, but not sure it matters...as an HW collector, I can tell ya they change model designations at the drop of a hat, and re-use them to mean different things, etc.

The HW 50 of the 1950's shares nothing with today's gun anyhow, beyond the name and overall size.

ZekeZX10 said:

Any successful coyote hunters out there your input is more than welcome. Talked to a local guy out here it's been hunting this area for a long time said these coyotes are pressured so much and everyone's using callers now he said you're better off using a mouth caller instead of pre-recorded stuff. The coyotes have heard it all before and are just leery.
Going to try going out at dusk instead of two or three in the morning and try my luck that way.

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I use a Bluetooth speaker and a few prerecorded full sets from Predator University mixed in with a bunch of sounds I’ve picked along the way. Your situation is similar to mine. They are super highly pressured so some different sounds works. Woodpecker sounds work sometimes, I have a whole new set of an owl attacking various rodents… I also use an open read caller for a howl or too but mostly just to make a really dramatic rabbit distress. You might try a squeaker? Desert dogs eat a lot of mice I think.

The best thing you can do and I don’t do enough of this is drive around at night. Get to a spot you think might have coyotes and just put the caller out the window and play locator howls. If you hear anything that’s your sign. It’s still denning season for a few more weeks so their ranges aren’t huge yet… I’m still going coyote sounds and pup distress before I do any prey distress. The advantage I have in Utah is NV and in my county we can spot light. I do all my calling at night right now. They are not so much “dawn and dusk” this time a year. When it’s super hot I see them more from like 2am until just before sunrise. If the jackrabbits are out and about the coyotes will be too.

Once the weather cools I’m still gonna call still but mostly I’m gonna try out a pressure baiting scheme… freeze all your bloody critters and scrap in a 5 gallon bucket with water. I have a couple spots on BLM near my house where I’ll just dump the baitcicles… first week or two I’ll bait frequently and not hunt. After that I’ll continue to bait but shoot the ones I see… when it starts to get really cold I’ll bait less and maybe only once a week. From what I understand if you do it right they can get so desperate for the free meal they can be pretty reckless.

Good luck broski.

All of them. Lol, it all comes down to preference. Right or left cocking, weight, trigger feel, shot cycle, etc. So many uses or needs as well.

PasadenaMike said:

So many guns to choose it’ll make your head explo

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I finally got one !