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Alrizzo · Friday at 3:00 AM

If you call TopGun Airguns, I’d recommend talking to anyone except Ricky. In my experience, he just wasn’t helpful, had an attitude, and even refused to honor the price listed on their own website for the Panthera Hunter Compact — instead saying it would be approximately $150 more. Really disappointing. In the end, my $2,900 purchase of rifle and accessories went to Utah Airguns instead.

JaketheMeatGOD · Friday at 2:29 AM

Racing said:
I´ve got limited experience with the 100 and 110 but the little i´ve seen and shot them, there´snone the less a rather vast difference in hang tag vs the Steyr - and for better for worse for a reason.

But as you bring it up let´s dwell on it a bit.
I´ve been through my fair share of pcp´s by now and from what i´ve seen and experienced... i mean the imperative part here is power and accuracy really. Power sans accuracy in turn is rather pointless in my opinion.
But.
Does that elevated hang tag bring that much more performance by default?
For better for worse i´ll have to say no and especially so if you´re not all thumbs.

For instance. As much as i come down on Hatsan, and have done over the years - certainly no fan boy, truth of the matter is that one of the most accurate pcp´s i´ve ever owned and worked was a Hatsan Nova in 22cal. Still got a pic of a 10m intl target shot at.. was it 33 meters? A full mag, 10 shots, ripping the center out at the note of a max opening of 6.8mm i believe it was.
In other words a semi cheap pcp really, which in my book goes to show that.. well.. albeit many more expensive pcp is for a reason but hand on heart... is there really THAT much difference at the end of the day when we´re talking downright performance (read - power n accuracy).? (That Nova btw was souped up to the level of approx 90J and main fudder was JSB slugs.)
I guess most would reply yes to that one and be that as it may i TO A POINT beg to differ.

Now.
This Steyr is no doubt off of the "plush" tier and i guess it shows just looking at it, handling both the design and the parts. Yes. It is of very high quality. Does it shoot as well?
In a word yes. Yes it does, but then again i´d say that´s to be expected for a pcp this price range. The HW-100 and 110.. i mean.. the Steyr is almost three times as much.
Would i have bought this Steyr hadn´t i run into it by chance? No. No i would not. Having owned Impacts, Crowns, Daystates, AA and what have you not over the years.... i´d wager to say there´s pros n cons to basically all brands.
Does this Steyr trumph say my old M3? Nah. Not really. Craftsmanship, for instance on the stock, on the Steyr is however no doubt a couple of climbs up the ladder vs the FX units. Pure performance though.. that´s to be debated as you´ll be aware from this thread.

I guess what i´m saying is that I for one am about value for money. I honestly don´t care what it says on the box (or stock for that matter) a good quality pcp is a good quality pcp no matter where it´s been produced.

To be honest I find that sorts of the name of the game, and here the various forums is of both value and importance as i see it as we get to compare notes, which we ALL benefit from.

I would say a fair price for this airgun would be around 1700$ new, the quality is superb, it looks great like a proper dependable rifle and I'm a Big fan, but it's hard to pay Bugatti prices to an ultra high quality Volkswagen.

stovepipe · Friday at 2:03 AM

etothen said:
Something I don't understand, if my plenum is open to the bottle why does it not degas when take the bottle off? And the remaining gas does not come out when I dry fire the gun, it remains under pressure and shoots extremely slowly even though the plenum is showing 170 bar reg pressure? Like the hammer cant bang the plenum open enough to get the gas out and it will keep doing that for about five shots that then follow a speed curve with the fastest shot at shout four and then it finally degasses like it should. The high pressure making it so the hammer cant open the valve enough seems to fit with the multiple degas shots but with the plenum open to the bottle why does the plenum start loosing pressure when I remove the bottle. I let it sit like that for an hour and it did not move, stayed rock solid at 150 at the time.

I just really wish I knew what I was looking for before I pull the whole reg so I have a better idea of what I am looking for. I prefer to do the research once so I only have to take everything apart the once but I have not been able to figure out a logical point of failure that would give this set of, for lack of a better word, symptoms.

Hi etothen. I have questions for you. There are pieces of information missing from what you've described that I need to help diagnose the problem.
First of all, are you sure you have an FX AMP regulator in that impact? If it's a HUMA regulator, then I can't help.

Assuming that it's an FX AMP regulator:

There are places where you mention what the plenum pressure was, but you do not mention what the tank pressure was.
For example, you said you increased the regulator pressure and the plenum pressure jumped up to 150 bar, but you didn't say what the tank pressure was at that time. If the tank pressure was also 150 bar at that time, then you may have actually set the regulator to some unknown amount above 150, but that's all the tank had in it at the time. If that was the case, then the regulator was doing exactly what it should do.
Another example is where you say the plenum pressure was 170 bar, but you didn't say what the tank pressure was at the time. If the tank pressure was, for example, at 200 bar, then that would indicate that the regulator is set to 170 bar and the regulator is doing what it's supposed to do.

Your observation that a high plenum pressure and a weak hammer setting is normal in that it would take several dry fires to finally drop the plenum pressure enough below the regulator set pressure to allow the piston to back away from the tiny hole in the end of the set screw and let air from the plenum to escape out to where the bottle connects to. This is normal behavior for an AMP regulator.

Your observation that when you removed the bottle tank, the plenum pressure didn't bleed out right away -- it required dry firing to drop the plenum pressure below the pressure that the regulator was set for. This is normal behavior for an FX AMP regulator.

Initially you said that you thought you were having a similar problem to that of the original poster, but this doesn't sound like the same symptoms. So far it sounds like your regulator is working as it should.

I did say that, IF the only problem with an FX AMP regulator was bad set screw O-rings, then you could bleed the air from the rifle and remove the set screw and replace just those two O-rings and re-install the set screw to fix the problem without needing to remove the entire regulator housing -- and that is STILL true. But I'm not saying there is anything wrong with your set screw O-rings -- so far, I just don't have proof that the O-rings are bad.

If you have more info that would help with a diagnosis, let us know. Cheers.

stovepipe

napairgunner · Friday at 1:21 AM

This listing has been renewed

napairgunner · Friday at 1:21 AM

This listing has been renewed

KWK · Friday at 1:20 AM

marflow 777 said:
that is a very nice stain finish
what oil did you use i looked and did see it named

Thank you. TimberLuxe

BordertownDevil · Friday at 1:17 AM

Here’s mine. You’re welcome to use the design if you can find a welder. You could cut the cost of building it by using lumber instead of metal for the majority of it with just a metal feed ramp/backstop to take the punishment of the pellets.

Custom bird feeder/pellet trap:

Just thought I’d show y’all my custom bird feeder/pellet trap. “What the heck is that,” I hear you ask? Well, allow me to explain. I live in the Sonoran desert outside of town. We get A LOT of wildlife from quail, dove, hawks, ravens, ground squirrels, rabbits, bobcats, coyotes, badgers...

www.airgunnation.com

roaoro · Friday at 1:13 AM

Just picked up a .177 Sub Compact Katran. I love the looks and feel of it. I filled it up and zeroed it in. Seems fairly accurate, but seems to be using up too much air like OP, and quickly. One magazine lowered the tank from 300 bar to 140. Pretty loud as well (tested w/Tanto). 750 fps w/CPHPs out of the box. Looks like I'll need to tear into it. I need to change the lever over to the left side anyways. This thread should help me, thanks for your effort @weevil , I can't seem to get the video in post 6 to work...it has left the youtuberverse. Would love to find some good disassembly and tuning vids.

Trucker3573 · Friday at 1:01 AM

Fedex parcel division is a mix of contract workers and actual fedex employees. A bad model in my opinion. @manabeknives..shoot me a pm with the exact hub it’s lost at.

Trucker3573 · Friday at 12:56 AM

I don’t think it is the percentage rate that is exactly the problem. These tariff policies have been implemented like a bull running through a china shop. A total cluster ——- leaving these companies not even knowing what is going on day to day what the future will hold over even how to make sure they are compliant. IE total chaos and it’s just easier to not deal with it. I would guess we will see more of it. I would guess we can all agree they haven’t been good for our hobby. For the country overall I think is totally yet to be seen. Too early to tell.

sonnysan · Friday at 12:39 AM

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.20calguy · Friday at 12:30 AM

Chuck-in-Ohio said:
The barrel is separated from the tube because of the wedge clamped rear sight.

I don't see that and if it is resolder it.

mubhaur · Friday at 12:20 AM

gendoc said:
awesome shooting !!!
are you eating them or are they just pest birds ?
looks like good eating to me........

Eating

AirStryk Industries · Friday at 12:20 AM

markhooper said:
like what is the price for a mini in 22 caliber.. I'd be interested, so you can PM me if it works for you.
Mark

They should be the same price as the Standard

HogKiller · Thursday at 11:44 PM

Well, my old Zulus is going to the highest bidder or the junk pile. I put it back on my Sapsan, got it sighted in, images were decent enough to work. Went to my permission it was a bit warm and oh damn, the screen is dark again. Messed with the brightness but that wasn't the issue, it's heat. It's awesome in the dark, but right now I'm not doing any night shooting and I most likely never will. Oh I did manage to get two ground squirrels with it, even if it was horribly dark.

marflow 777 · Thursday at 11:42 PM

that is a very nice stain finish
what oil did you use i looked and did see it named

Loufish · Thursday at 11:42 PM

Excellent recommendations. I can't add to it. Enjoy!
Rules are good to review: https://www.national50.net/rules

KBURG · Thursday at 11:41 PM

Gents thank you for the ideas. It came down to the thickness of the gauge washer. The replacement washer was thinner, allowing the gauge to screw in deeper blocking the air passage.

KWK · Thursday at 11:41 PM

BTW the big hit is the fact that the de minimis exemption on orders under $800 was ended. We were getting imports duty free. (Krales)
It's killed the cheap "direct from China" eBay stuff you could buy as well.
How will this play out? Will there be exemptions? IDK
Contact a congressman or two.
But Do not go to a "mostly peaceful protest".

rdpjr6504 · Thursday at 11:35 PM

Yes reach out to BORIS at PYRAMYD AIR. He is great on Korean guns I have used him many times to purchase parts that are discontinued or to repair my Korean rifles since we lost Will Piatt.

willy · Thursday at 11:34 PM

Man"this is scary stuff" then ya have to tell them its a air GUN then thats another can of worms" Man " feel fer ya"i don,t no what to say?

TheRealHearkensSaltLake · Thursday at 11:33 PM

I have one and I absolutely love it! Very accurate, superb quality and a great trigger.

HogKiller · Thursday at 11:32 PM

Had some time so went to the Association, Sandie has been after to startworking on the squirrels in her yard. Only problem is, it's a jungle and very few clean lines of shot. Anyway, I set up in the 'front yard' with my Sapsan, it was my first PCP but I couldn't get it to work well so I got the Mavericks and the Raptor. I had the Zulus on it, note BAD MISTAKE again, it really doesn't like the heat. One squirrel starts across the drive and I hit it, but it managed to make it across and under some junk where i couldn't get it. I'm waiting and another shows up, sold hit, gave it a few more just because. Using AEA 18.3's, forget the speed. Waited a bit longer, and looked in some other areas but nothing standing still.

When I inspected this one looks like I hit the spine at the base of the neck. It was so hot my phone was dark, couldn't see the screen. I've got a video from the Zulus that I'm going to post later, just shows how dark the darn screen is....or I'm assuming it'll show up. Has to be heat related.

NotSure2020 · Thursday at 11:23 PM

CoolPeacefulEasyFeeling said:
Hi NotSure2020 - my pennies worth of whether to buy used or to purchase new; to me it really boils down to how mechanically inclined you, the kind of equipment/machinery is readily available to you, the degree of repair or mods you are wanting to implement, and oh yes - how much time you have. For me, the last one has always been a challenge, because though I enjoy working on airguns and the like, sometimes I wonder if its worth the effort? Wouldn't I rather spend the little time I have shooting them instead of working on them?

This rings true for me. Another big factor is the cost. All of these mods and additions add up really quick. I’m still on the fence but the used stuff here is making it harder for me as I definitely can see wanting to add stuff but when I look up the price I’m like that’s as much as the damn gun!

Booder98 · Thursday at 11:14 PM

It's got a scope and everything!

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