I enjoy both but there's something about a quality spring gun. If you want to just grab and go or sit on the porch and knock some spinners around it's hard to beat. Will they outshoot my FX Impact at 50+ yards...no, but still, it's extremely relaxing and satisfying to be able to consistently hit a one inch spinner with it, something not every shooter can do. It takes a lot more focus and attention to details like breathing, trigger pull and fallow through. Its a slower more methodical way to shoot, one pellet at a time, one shot one kill, and a tin of pellets lasts a lot longer lol. After a session with my springer shooting my PCP's become easier and my shooting techniques are better.

OxHadrien said:

I picked up a 4500psi compressor on Amazon for my Notos. This was after I tried a bike style hand pump haha. I live in the city so I need to go to the range to do any long range shooting. I guess I should have mentioned that earlier. The reason I'm thinking about a tank is just to get more rounds off before I fill.

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As said above. Buy a tank that is DOT certified or a shop won’t fill it. Very important. Majority of ones sold on Amazon and eBay aren’t. On eBay you can get acecare dot tanks. If buying used keep in mind they only have a 15 yr life for professional fills and have to be hydro tested every 5 years. So check the dates stamped on the tanks.

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i would start a garden just to have rabbits for targets

I have a hm1000x in .22 with barrel set in .25 .30 and .35 that do the following values with the same reg pressure and hammer settings.
Reg is a Huma regulator

.22 jsb monsters redesigned 25 gr 67 joule
.25 jsb 34 gr 80 joule.
.30 jsb 45 gr 114 joule.
.35 is a work in progress needs a bigger plenum and reg pressure.

The all shoot hole in hole at 75 meters.

very good pellets.my notos shoots them with .2 SD of 7 shots

Not that anybody will listen, but I've been shooting this gun quite a lot .the accuracy I see with my cast bullet has been very reliable.
An average 10 shot group at fifty yards is under an inch and a lot of times much better clustering.I get 30 shots per fill. Again not earth shattering but because I can cast a tin of 500 for just a couple of bucks makes it fun.

roaoro said:

After getting a new moderator, I decided to do my own testing to see which of my "larger" moderators were the quietest. Dry firing out of the same regulated gun at the exact same distance, and re-ran test 2 more times to verify the accuracy of the original readings. Surprisingly the retests showed the same results within .5 dB, so at least I know there's consistency in the readings.
Curious what order would you guys think would be quietest to loudest? My guess prior to testing was 4,3,2,5,1,6

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Depending on gun sound is different with and without pellet. Moderator performance also changes. Huben k1 quieter without pellet gk1 louder. Etc...

bchannell said:

You are 100% right. You can fill any size tank, you just have to maintain discipline. There is no reason in the world why it would matter as long as you manage heat.

As to Chevron Open Gear Lube, you can find it on Amazon, ~$15

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I can't find it anywhere on Amazon. They have several other types from Chevron, but no "open gear".

rodjava said:

There is 1 important piece of information I did not mention. In order for front coaxial rest to work properly, the rifle butt stock needs to rotate slightly. The way I use the front coaxcial rest, the front of the airgun is somewhat tightly held into place in a "friction fit". This requires the rifle butt stock to slightly rotate as you adjust front elevation.

So I designed a rotating butt stock mount that fits the existing Red Panda rear rest pad. It easily mounts into place and moves in relation to the front coaxial adjustments. It took me awhile to figure out why my shots were not consistant until I mounted the rear mount. The movements are very slight, but important.

Rod in San Francisco

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Thanks for the advice, yes, I'm prepared for the stock. I have a rear support that mounts in place of the grip and has 360 degrees of smooth rotation.

I am surprised that the individual in the video was not advocating a conversion to HPA with a hose attached to a bottle, probably shoved down his trouser leg.

He has a bit of history on the topic...

I know a lot of times I want to say something or click on something ..And I will check there name to see where there from, If its blank or says nothing I just move on, It makes me distrust them and they are hiding for some reason,,,
Mike

Modski66 said:

Not sure which bit of my English you making fun of, but then you folk in the various colonies do have a peculiar way with the King's English...

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I was watching a YouTube on a Crosman 600..and the guy was British and he called a CO2 Cartridge a “Sparklet”..actually it’s pretty cool …

Franklink said:

For Hunter class field target here in the US, you want to be close to 20fpe, but not over.

Far and away, the two most used pellets are the JSB 10.3 and the 13.4 Monsters (Original), both in .177. Less used, but also competitive is the .20/13.73, also by JSB.

Those three pellets are what people who want to win shoot, simple as that. Much of it has to do with BC, and the fact that those three are as good as it gets for the combination of weight and speed that keeps you legal (again, slightly under 20fpe).

Caveat: I say JSB but some swear by FX or AA or Daystate branded pellets ....they're the same pellet, made by the same manufacturer, sub contracted out to be placed in different tins. Yes, a particular batch of xzy may really ji e with a particular barrel, but that doesn't change the fact that JSB made them.

As for getting a .177 barrel for your RTI, it's not a typical rifle we see at FT matches, but that doesn't mean it can't be competitive, in the right hands and with the right amounts of practice.

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So 10.3 gr shooting at 870 fps would be a good idea

Kenjeepman said:

25 cal with 25 grain pellets at 40 fpe
1 mag 9-10 fps spread
2 mags 25-30 fps spread.


22 cal with 25 grain pellets at 40 fpe
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25 cal with 25 grain pellets at 40 fpe
1 mag 9-10 fps spread
2 mags 25-30 fps spread.


22 cal with 25 grain pellets at 40 fpe
See pics

AEAC channel on YouTube has a great in depth video of this gun. It was a slug shooter for him

Liontracks said:

I have an almost new RTI P3 in .22. What if I bought a barrel kit in .177 and just convert it and save some dollars?

What grain and brand is popular among HFT shooters?

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For Hunter class field target here in the US, you want to be close to 20fpe, but not over.

Far and away, the two most used pellets are the JSB 10.3 and the 13.4 Monsters (Original), both in .177. Less used, but also competitive is the .20/13.73, also by JSB.

Those three pellets are what people who want to win shoot, simple as that. Much of it has to do with BC, and the fact that those three are as good as it gets for the combination of weight and speed that keeps you legal (again, slightly under 20fpe).

Caveat: I say JSB but some swear by FX or AA or Daystate branded pellets ....they're the same pellet, made by the same manufacturer, sub contracted out to be placed in different tins. Yes, a particular batch of xzy may really ji e with a particular barrel, but that doesn't change the fact that JSB made them.

As for getting a .177 barrel for your RTI, it's not a typical rifle we see at FT matches, but that doesn't mean it can't be competitive, in the right hands and with the right amounts of practice.

Hateful McNasty said:

The old grampa saying ," only in months with a R in them ".

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Yes, that is the old say'n. But way down south I would give them another month either way.

Marker said:

After hearing that ...I would have to say that Pistol is most defiantly a one of a kind ...a Picasso,Rembrandt...I would put that in my coffin with me lol ...so how many shots do you get from a Sparklet...lol..and yes I am making fun of your English..I was checking out the 686 PPC 1500...don't like the black clip on it...they were saying that the tolerance's were too close to color coat them ...doesn't seem to effect your's.... unless there was a design change on that model ...the 686-6 Gold one is growing on me ...Bond 007 issue..Gold Finger

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Not sure which bit of my English you making fun of, but then you folk in the various colonies do have a peculiar way with the King's English...

I have an almost new RTI P3 in .22. What if I bought a barrel kit in .177 and just convert it and save some dollars?

What grain and brand is popular among HFT shooters?

That's a nice set up. The blue laminate stock is one of my favorites. Great groups!

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Gear_Junkie said:

6,5,1,4,2,3

What were you using to measure the sound? I've tried a cheap sound meter, an expensive sound meter, and a phone. NONE of these options provided consistent results.

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PT6708. The first one I bought wasn't working right and was inconsistent. The 2nd one surprisingly gave me consistent readings once I figured out how to set it up correctly.

I've used alternative material as well. I have brass sheets that I can cut to make work. The shims posted though are quite nice as they are very thin and made for these scopes (same width and has screw hole) and can be layered to fine tune the scopes. If you've use these digital scopes with rangefinders, it helps to get the rangefinder as close to your POI as possible.