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msg1979 · Aug 6, 2025

cavedweller said:
When I purchased my .177 RW in LP and my .177 RW in H.P., I had AOA set tune parameters as follows:
RW L.P.
low tune for 8.3’s <12 fpe WFTF legal
medium for 10.3’s @888 fps HFT legal
high for 13.4’s @815 FPS HFT legal
RW H.P.
low for 10.3 at 890 Hft legal
medium for 13.4 at 815 FPS Hft legal
high for 16.1 at 920 fps - pesting
since my main focus is field target im looking for consistent sub 1.5” groups at 55 yards, obviously smaller the group the better, but thats my standard.
My experience with Diablo shape pellets is they do best below 910 FPS With very few exceptions. Remember unless you’re in an enclosure wind and even thermal drift is a thing From moment to moment.

Thx. Looks like the stock redwolf need a tune. Ill go for tuning when heliboard arrives

BriarpatchMtn · Aug 6, 2025

This is link to the Universal Huma Reg Tester on their website. They have a How To video included there. If you don't have a bottle I'm guessing you could still use it with directly from compressor. Would only have air in the hose and compressor cylinder for few functionality test though. But you'd still know your set point regardless.
Below are pics of the interior o-rings. I had my reg slip off the lower one twice, which released all the air suddenly. Scared the poop out of me, and thought I'd broken something the first time. Didn't hurt anything, but I do think they should use larger o-rings to prevent that.
Huma regulator tester - Huma-Air https://share.google/EyKqP6ZB0Y0tm9X8d

Now have the adapters for other regulators such as for the stock Snowpeaks. However for me that would be $40+USD shipping for a $15USD part. Hard to justify that.

cavedweller · Aug 6, 2025

msg1979 said:
Thx
Which 13.4? The monster or monster redesign?

Mine doesnt shoot the 10.3 at low setting - 920fps. Group is too big
Mine doesnt shoot monster 13.4 at 830fps in low. Groups too big

It shoots 16.2 930fps in high and 13.4 monster redesign 810fps in low - perfect groups.

Is this ok from a new redwolf?

When I purchased my .177 RW in LP and my .177 RW in H.P., I had AOA set tune parameters as follows:
RW L.P.
low tune for 8.3’s <12 fpe WFTF legal
medium for 10.3’s @888 fps HFT legal
high for 13.4’s @815 FPS HFT legal
RW H.P.
low for 10.3 at 890 Hft legal
medium for 13.4 at 815 FPS Hft legal
high for 16.1 at 920 fps - pesting
since my main focus is field target im looking for consistent sub 1.5” groups at 55 yards, obviously smaller the group the better, but thats my standard.
My experience with Diablo shape pellets is they do best below 910 FPS With very few exceptions. Remember unless you’re in an enclosure wind and even thermal drift is a thing From moment to moment.

msg1979 · Aug 6, 2025

cavedweller said:
Mine like the JSB 13.4’s both types at 810 fps so my results are similar

Thx!
The regular monster at low setting - which gives 830fps - do not group at all. Only the redesign do group at 815fps in low setting.
I will try to see if the regular monster will group at another speed - but need heliboard to arrive for that
I would think that 810fps to 830fps - 20fps difference shouldnt open the group up that much as mine are at 830fps. But Ill see when I can tune it.

Struckat · Aug 6, 2025

They all get a pass unless they start wrecking stuff.

cavedweller · Aug 6, 2025

msg1979 said:
I have bougt a new Redwolf .177 HP

Today I did shoot it for the first time. I did 3x pull trough to clean barrel before shooting

I was at the understanding that the setting low, medium and high should be used with JSB heavy, monster and beast (or equal from Rangemaster) due to writings and reviews.

This is my results on 20yards
Low: JSB 10.34 - 930fps (1.5cm group)
Med: JSB 13.43 - 910fps (1.5cm group)
High: JSB 16.20 - 930ps (5mm group - hole in hole)

I then tried the Monster redesign 13.43 in low setting which gave 815fps and 5mm group - hole in hole
I tried the Monster 13.43 in low setting which gave 830fps and 1.5cm group

So its shooting JSB Monster redesign at low setting and JSB beast at high setting - both to perfection

is this spot on or am I missing something about pellet choice here?

Mine like the JSB 13.4’s both types at 810 fps so my results are similar

msg1979 · Aug 6, 2025

Trucker3573 said:
I think with any gun barrels will slightly differ in preferences so I don’t think there is really a normal. The heli board should open up options a lot as you can easily tune it more fine than a stock red wolf which in reality is actually very limited unless you want to get in the weeds with the daystate tuner.

I have ordered a heliboard. Should arrive in 10days

forrest342 · Aug 6, 2025

Liontracks said:
Do you have a link to the butt stock? Is it a direct fit or needs some modification? And can you change that ugly grip?

My specific butt stock is a raw. But any AR15 stock will work there are dozens of different styles to choose from.

All you need is the ar15 buffer tube that threads right in to the back of the pistol. No mods needed. And the butt stock slips over the buffer tube.

Same with the grip. Dozens to choose from, any ar15 grip will work.

Not all stocks and buffer tubes are designed to work in conjunction with one another and you may need a castle nut depending on what style you choose. Let me if you have more questions about compatibility.

Trucker3573 · Aug 6, 2025

msg1979 said:
Thx
Which 13.4? The monster or monster redesign?

Mine doesnt shoot the 10.3 at low setting - 920fps. Group is too big
Mine doesnt shoot monster 13.4 at 830fps in low. Groups too big

It shoots 16.2 930fps in high and 13.4 monster redesign 810fps in low - perfect groups.

Is this ok from a new redwolf?

I think with any gun barrels will slightly differ in preferences so I don’t think there is really a normal. The heli board should open up options a lot as you can easily tune it more fine than a stock red wolf which in reality is actually very limited unless you want to get in the weeds with the daystate tuner.

cavedweller · Aug 6, 2025

Frank in Fairfield said:
I removed mine as well and put on the Williams peep but sometimes I wished I had the open sights.
A guy in Hawaii makes a rear mount (you put the original sight on it) that is attached with grub screws that grab the barrel without putting pressure on the joints.
It works neat…eBay ….

Link?

Jgarret7 · Aug 6, 2025

Frank in Fairfield said:
I removed mine as well and put on the Williams peep but sometimes I wished I had the open sights.
A guy in Hawaii makes a rear mount (you put the original sight on it) that is attached with grub screws that grab the barrel without putting pressure on the joints.
It works neat…eBay ….

Thank you!

Bear-of-Grayling · Aug 6, 2025

Twiceshy said:
May I ask where are you getting these for $4.99 Thank you.

Yes, Hatsan USA. They ship fast, reasonably and well packaged.

msg1979 · Aug 6, 2025

EPG said:
From hundreds (likely a few thousand) 30 and 40 Yard Challenge cards we’ve accumulated data from… the 13.4s do best at 800 to 820 fps. The pellets design parameters were probably to optimize performance at 20 ft/lbs for field target shooters.

We’ve found the 10.3s very flexible with velocity. Lots of data showing excellent accuracy at 800 fps up to 920 fps.

Not many shooters have rifles that shoot the 16.2g Beasts well - at least we have not seen many leaderboard submissions with this pellet. I believe the Rick Cope ( @RCope ) has a Daystate that does. Tom Boylan ( @tommyb ) had a RAW TM initially set up for the 16.2g. Results were not good so he had the rifle retuned for 13.4g with excellent results (815fps range).

I’ve had some amazing results with AEA 8.72g at velocities up to 935fps with multiple rifles. Interestingly, this 8.72g pellet flys slower than the JSB 8.44g - back-to-back shot in the same rifle.

-Ed

Thx
Which 13.4? The monster or monster redesign?

Mine doesnt shoot the 10.3 at low setting - 920fps. Group is too big
Mine doesnt shoot monster 13.4 at 830fps in low. Groups too big

It shoots 16.2 930fps in high and 13.4 monster redesign 810fps in low - perfect groups.

Is this ok from a new redwolf?

msg1979 · Aug 6, 2025

Trucker3573 said:
AEAC channel on YouTube has a great in depth video of this gun. It was a slug shooter for him

Yes. I have seen that. Very good in depth review. But it doesnt tell how the riflexshoots 13.34g and 13.43g. Only slugs and beast

Fodzy le Geek · Aug 6, 2025

Ezana4CE said:
@Fodzy le Geek Why haven't you posted links to your videos presenting your evidence along with your rants?

Already done...
But for your : 2 of my vidéos

Tricky-Dicky · Aug 6, 2025

MSR Workshop said:
The SK-FLT103 part

ita a filter that was recently replaced with a brass part. Original one I believe was some type of filter material and it wasn’t perfectly flat on the bottom and they said it could be a potential for a leaky area….. I replaced mine, but I also tried to see if the original could be flattened , and it was really easy. Just running it over some 400g sandpaper completely removing the small burr that was their originally probably causing it not to be flat.

But it only seems to exist on the epoch reg and the screw on cap seems looks shorter.
Took my HP reg apart to clean up and check last night and didn't notice any part like you're describing?

wooferocau · Aug 6, 2025

Fodzy le Geek said:
Message send to KARMA and DONNYFL :
Good evening, I'm getting back to you to find out where you are with your quality control and deliveries of Karma Red Panda in Europe because, to this day, many people are asking me if things have changed since my video on the quality of Red Panda sold by Krale from China. My answer is currently still the same: the Karma made in China sold in Europe is a disaster. Having had no news or response from your resellers, I still strongly advise against purchasing this brand. I look forward to your response.
Sincerely,

I was soooo looking forward to getting the Karma RP... but now ....think i will pass !!

Jack_0106 · Aug 6, 2025

6gun said:
Guns either love hybrids or hate them. I'm glad yours likes them. They should expand like crazy if they're stabilized. Take notes of your current tune and see how fast you can send them. The accuracy is nice, maybe shoot a water bottle full of water in front of the clay? I was sending mine a 930 into clay (plumbers putty) and it was blowing the back of the slug out, right side of Pic.

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Thanks, yeah I'll set up a couple of 2ltr bottles of water to see if a more fluid target will get them to expand.

coastal drifter · Aug 6, 2025

I enjoy both but there's something about a quality spring gun. If you want to just grab and go or sit on the porch and knock some spinners around it's hard to beat. Will they outshoot my FX Impact at 50+ yards...no, but still, it's extremely relaxing and satisfying to be able to consistently hit a one inch spinner with it, something not every shooter can do. It takes a lot more focus and attention to details like breathing, trigger pull and fallow through. Its a slower more methodical way to shoot, one pellet at a time, one shot one kill, and a tin of pellets lasts a lot longer lol. After a session with my springer shooting my PCP's become easier and my shooting techniques are better.

Trucker3573 · Aug 6, 2025

OxHadrien said:
I picked up a 4500psi compressor on Amazon for my Notos. This was after I tried a bike style hand pump haha. I live in the city so I need to go to the range to do any long range shooting. I guess I should have mentioned that earlier. The reason I'm thinking about a tank is just to get more rounds off before I fill.

As said above. Buy a tank that is DOT certified or a shop won’t fill it. Very important. Majority of ones sold on Amazon and eBay aren’t. On eBay you can get acecare dot tanks. If buying used keep in mind they only have a 15 yr life for professional fills and have to be hydro tested every 5 years. So check the dates stamped on the tanks.

Arrowit28 · Aug 6, 2025

This listing has been renewed

daddypaddy · Aug 6, 2025

i would start a garden just to have rabbits for targets

etiam.viviens · Aug 6, 2025

I have a hm1000x in .22 with barrel set in .25 .30 and .35 that do the following values with the same reg pressure and hammer settings.
Reg is a Huma regulator

.22 jsb monsters redesigned 25 gr 67 joule
.25 jsb 34 gr 80 joule.
.30 jsb 45 gr 114 joule.
.35 is a work in progress

needs a bigger plenum and reg pressure.

The all shoot hole in hole at 75 meters.

daddypaddy · Aug 6, 2025

very good pellets.my notos shoots them with .2 SD of 7 shots

harrympope · Aug 6, 2025

Not that anybody will listen, but I've been shooting this gun quite a lot .the accuracy I see with my cast bullet has been very reliable.
An average 10 shot group at fifty yards is under an inch and a lot of times much better clustering.I get 30 shots per fill. Again not earth shattering but because I can cast a tin of 500 for just a couple of bucks makes it fun.

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