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Modski66 · Aug 5, 2025

Marker said:
After hearing that ...I would have to say that Pistol is most defiantly a one of a kind ...a Picasso,Rembrandt...I would put that in my coffin with me lol ...so how many shots do you get from a Sparklet...lol..and yes I am making fun of your English..I was checking out the 686 PPC 1500...don't like the black clip on it...they were saying that the tolerance's were too close to color coat them ...doesn't seem to effect your's.... unless there was a design change on that model ...the 686-6 Gold one is growing on me ...Bond 007 issue..Gold Finger

Not sure which bit of my English you making fun of, but then you folk in the various colonies do have a peculiar way with the King's English...

Liontracks · Aug 5, 2025

I have an almost new RTI P3 in .22. What if I bought a barrel kit in .177 and just convert it and save some dollars?

What grain and brand is popular among HFT shooters?

KSK · Aug 5, 2025

That's a nice set up. The blue laminate stock is one of my favorites. Great groups!

Ashiii · Aug 5, 2025

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roaoro · Aug 5, 2025

Gear_Junkie said:
6,5,1,4,2,3

What were you using to measure the sound? I've tried a cheap sound meter, an expensive sound meter, and a phone. NONE of these options provided consistent results.

PT6708. The first one I bought wasn't working right and was inconsistent. The 2nd one surprisingly gave me consistent readings once I figured out how to set it up correctly.

roaoro · Aug 5, 2025

I've used alternative material as well. I have brass sheets that I can cut to make work. The shims posted though are quite nice as they are very thin and made for these scopes (same width and has screw hole) and can be layered to fine tune the scopes. If you've use these digital scopes with rangefinders, it helps to get the rangefinder as close to your POI as possible.

trapdoor2 · Aug 5, 2025

manabeknives said:
There already is a slug challenge at Oregon's Extreme held in Ashland

Good! I hadn't seen mention of it. I would like to see these competitions move from local/regional to national.

Competition pushes every sport forward.

Gear_Junkie · Aug 5, 2025

6,5,1,4,2,3

What were you using to measure the sound? I've tried a cheap sound meter, an expensive sound meter, and a phone. NONE of these options provided consistent results.

Liontracks · Aug 5, 2025

forrest342 said:
Easy choice… neither. Get the raw pistol and put an AR15 butt stock on it. They come in .177 12ftlb or 20 ftlb versions. Here’s mine next to my Mini.

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Do you have a link to the butt stock? Is it a direct fit or needs some modification? And can you change that ugly grip?

graycrait · Aug 5, 2025

Let's all remember that the Notos is the 1022 of the pellet gun world. It is a very average air gun but allows for some fun easy to do DIY upgrades.

Magnum12 · Aug 5, 2025

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roaoro · Aug 5, 2025

After getting a new moderator, I decided to do my own testing to see which of my "larger" moderators were the quietest. Dry firing out of the same regulated gun at the exact same distance, and re-ran test 2 more times to verify the accuracy of the original readings. Surprisingly the retests showed the same results within .5 dB, so at least I know there's consistency in the readings.
Curious what order would you guys think would be quietest to loudest? My guess prior to testing was 4,3,2,5,1,6

graycrait · Aug 5, 2025

#1 on the left is clearly the quietest. #'s 2 and 3 are as quiet as the next 2 but so small. But that big honker is so darn quiet it has to be number 1 and is not that heavy so the Notos is still light and handy although longer.

OxHadrien · Aug 5, 2025

Houston, Texas here

Powerstroke · Aug 5, 2025

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chuckster636 · Aug 5, 2025

Today I am selling my PRO CHRONO DLX chronograph with BlueTooth & my Caldwell LED Light Kit for $100.00...which includes free shipping anywhere in the CONUS insured at full value. I will accept payment via PayPal Friends & Family, or you pay the overage if you choose to send the funds via PayPal “Goods and Services.” This chronograph sells for $160.00 and the light kit sells for $40.00 on Midway USA...so the total retail cost of these items is $200.00, which means you save $50.00
I only used this chronograph a couple times - it has been sitting in my gun closet for the last couple years and I just want to pass it on to someone that needs a good chronograph. This chrono & light kit also comes with a zippered carrying case.

Competition Electronics ProChrono DLX Bluetooth Chronograph

The next generation of the ProChrono model based on a time proven design that has been measuring “almost anything that shoots” since 1985!...

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Caldwell Chronograph LED Light Kit

This LED Light Kit is perfect for those wanting to use any of the Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronographs indoors or in low-light conditions. The kit...

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All the best, Chuck Peffley

manabeknives · Aug 5, 2025

The Long .22 is Very Tempting!!

Showme · Aug 5, 2025

Strangely I looked up the meaning of DIN 913 and it means flat base. The one currently in my gun has a pointed base. Interesting.

Showme · Aug 5, 2025

Thank you.

iFish · Aug 5, 2025

According to the "old" schematic,, it is М4х8 10.9 DIN913.

I say "old" schematic because the basic design is there, but there have been many mods over time that just aren't reflected by the schematic I have. That said, I believe what is stated for the grub screw is accurate.

Showme · Aug 5, 2025

OK. So sounds like a known problem. We’ll see what it reads tomorrow. I think it’s still leaking a little bit. I’ll see if it’s less or more. Do you know what size the grub screw is if I’m shopping?

Marker · Aug 5, 2025

Modski66 said:
Umarex Smith & Wesson 586.
I believe I am at least the third owner, the guy I bought it from got it from another guy who had it stripped, polished and chrome plated, including the all important magazines.
Not sure if it qualifies as a 686 now though...

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It's a bit of a fingerprint magnet, so it's going to get a treatment of Renaissance Wax quite soon.

After hearing that ...I would have to say that Pistol is most defiantly a one of a kind ...a Picasso,Rembrandt...I would put that in my coffin with me lol ...so how many shots do you get from a Sparklet...lol..and yes I am making fun of your English..I was checking out the 686 PPC 1500...don't like the black clip on it...they were saying that the tolerance's were too close to color coat them ...doesn't seem to effect your's.... unless there was a design change on that model ...the 686-6 Gold one is growing on me ...Bond 007 issue..Gold Finger

KimbapSodaPap · Aug 5, 2025

Currently mulling over the differences between a normal Hammerli AP-20 and the AP-20 pro. Mainly I'm concerned about the polymer grip and the air tank.

The grip seems to be sort of ambidextrous with additional plastic parts for a bottom shelf and where you're palm/wrist would be (sorry for the poor terminology, new to this), as opposed to a larger wooden one that one would sand down. Not sure about other forms of adjustment. Would this be a significant downside for some of you? I was considering at some point just wrapping it with putty, 3d scanning it, and printing out a custom grip anyway, unless if traditional wood and sanding is the better way to go.

The air tank doesn't seem to have its own visible gauge. Is this also something that some of you would consider to be too big of a downside? I think I'd be okay with counting, but is there some other advantage I should know about of having a gauge on the tank? Also when looking through some older posts online (not necessarily on this site), I've seen one or two people mention that the vertical tank is weird. I'm not concerned about that as I'm 99% sure that it can be oriented horizontally, and the pictures just have it shown vertically to demonstrate the functionality.

As for the AP-20 Pro, the tank has a bit more capacity and a gauge, and the grip is wood.

brawler1588 · Aug 5, 2025

This listing has been renewed

manabeknives · Aug 5, 2025

trapdoor2 said:
The PCP 100yd benchrest sport is young. Money is being made...sufficient to support dedicated BR rifles being manufactured and available to the public. It would follow that more money should equal climbing scores. I expect that perfect scores (250-25X) will happen. Last year a 238-10X won the Pyramid Cup. I think I saw that a 240 was shot by somebody this Spring. BTW, the current rules only allow commercially available diablo pellets, no slugs.

When perfection becomes commonplace, the sport will change. Whether that involves a tougher challenge or adding a limiting factor, remains to be seen. I expect a separate slug competition will happen soon. All it will take is prize money.

There already is a slug challenge at Oregon's Extreme held in Ashland

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