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HogKiller · Aug 4, 2025

It pains me to say this but, I think you'll find Mavericks too heavy, even my compact weights a bit. My Sapsan is way lighter BUT I wouldn't recommend it to anyone I know, it's an orphan until the Russia/Ukraine thing ends. ON the Mavericks once you get the little details sorted out they are reliable as all get out. You are going to need pressure, IMHO plan on a decent compressor and a 70cf tank. My .22 Compact will get 60 or more shots with a slightly larger tank. Get rid of the 10# worth of optics

and it's not too bad now that I think about it.

Digital7ife · Aug 4, 2025

keesbo said:
Gave the Vixen Long a new pistol grip.
It is a UTG and I like it.

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love the look man...

had a question tho... how did you get that {HandRail/Guard} to fit the gun?

and for the moderator did it just screwed on to the factory threads?

rigbymauser · Aug 4, 2025

Contndr35BB said:
Definitely go after dark !! I've dealt with many of these over the years on the farm / operating heavy equipment & on home sites. My preferred method to anything else ( in the proper area) is a can of starting fluid & a Lighter ! If fire is a problem (or you take ALL safety concerns to heart) go with a least 2 cans of wasp& hornet spray ( NOT FOAM ) & saturate it till the cans are MT! The largest I've ever seen & dealt with would not fit in a 5 gal. bucket! After spraying in early am , the pyramid of dead bees under the nest that evening would have filled a large coffee can. You get most of the nest if waiting till eve. when they rest for the night.

European hornets are active in dark(night)too. KInd regards from Europe.

HogKiller · Aug 4, 2025

humor alert, $60k in two years and it only took $107k to do it.

Now the reality check, can they do 1 MOA at 1,000 yards?

Don't dump on me, I KNOW darn well that I'm not in their league, not even sure I'm in the same hemisphere.

twalt12 · Aug 4, 2025

Who else has a .30 Leopard with a 600mm barrell? I purchased mine from Utah Airguns and had them tune it for hybrids and heavy pellets. I dont know what the factory setting were since they adjusted it before i recieved the rifle. When it arrived it was set up at 150psi on the reg and micro and macro maxed out. It shot ok at 50 yards but would send some wild fliers every 4-5 shots. They tuned it with Air Impulse 44.6 HBT slugs at approx 940FPS.

CactusPilot · Aug 4, 2025

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Liontracks · Aug 4, 2025

JoeWillie said:
For what you want probably not but if you already have a .22 you’ may be happier With a .177 for HFT. If you go the Daystate route check with Derrick Wall, Tenacious Airguns. He’ll do a great job of setting it up for you.

Yeah the link was for .22 Huntsman but I meant .177

Xolotl · Aug 4, 2025

JungleShooter said:
Very nice!
17" = 43cm
That's short! Awesome!

Please, let us know when the semi-automatic bullpup is ready for sale.
What's the aproximate price going to be?

Matthias

Size comparison with Layla EdGUN

The price would be in the range of GK1 and Mordax.

JungleShooter · Aug 4, 2025

JW. said:
Long Range Scopes over 40x: 10-50x, 15-60x & 8-80x

ALL of them will typically be SFP due to reticle thickness at ultra high magnification. The chart says 4 are FFP but I would bet big dollars that these are limited to 36x and under (I have a couple Athlon 34x that are FFP) and Athlon may have a 40x FFP (nope, checked it is SFP).

If you can find a 50x FFP i'm all in...

There is a good amount of FFPs that go up to 40x.
I have their specs side by side in a table, if interested.

Matthias

charlie99 · Aug 4, 2025

If you happen to have a paintball gun that also is fun to harass them. They will chase and sting you if you cant get to cover. They seem to know where the paintballs are coming from even ~50 yards away.

woogie_man · Aug 4, 2025

Man that wasn't even close!

Show us what you were shooting.

JungleShooter · Aug 4, 2025

Xolotl said:
The current length of the Bullpup is 17” And the butt stock is full adjustable. The current model is side lever but it will be compatible with the semiautomatic kit.

Now the gun is able to generate 20 FPE@ 3K psi. Using the semiautomatic kit would be able to get 25-27 FPE . The kit includes a balance valve to reach these numbers. I was developing and manufacturing several concepts but all of them the air deposit was empty in the second shoot, the valve was not able to be closed until the air pressure was to low. Finally I can to do work one.

Very nice!
17" = 43cm
That's short! Awesome!

Please, let us know when the semi-automatic bullpup is ready for sale.

What's the aproximate price going to be?

Matthias

jmeade1975 · Aug 4, 2025

You should probably include some details on how you’re going to use the M4. Shooting paper,shooting varmint or both. Type of reticle you prefer, lighted reticle or not, optical power range, and weight can all factor into picking a good scope for your application. Then of course optical clarity depending on what your doing and most importantly price range. My favorite scope is a Vector Continental 5x30. It checks all my boxes and at the time was a medium budget scope I bought on AGN classifieds.

charlie99 · Aug 4, 2025

I dont know if there are any US vendors, but you can buy here. Wes is a good guy and I have dealt with him as has many others here.

Snowpeak Max 1 High Power Slug Rifle .22 and .25 caliber

airgunarcheryfun.ca

marflow 777 · Aug 4, 2025

i found none in the UK
you would be better of posting here
https://airgunforums.co.uk/
the sight is going to be a bit of a Unicorn

a Gamo rear sight could work if the holes matched up not correct but in this case close enough but would it fit
you would have to do some looking to find one and get it down under

https://www.mundilar.net/en/replace...arts/gamo-rear-sight-without-fiber-optic.html

Druperk · Aug 4, 2025

where you can buy it in the US?

Mrshosted · Aug 4, 2025

Jwood said:
Semi auto

Makes more sense knowing that it’s a semi auto.

Chasdog · Aug 4, 2025

@BlackICE Thats how i deal with the yellowjackets here.

kkarmical · Aug 4, 2025

I shoot this more than all the rest of my airguns

farmerjoe99 · Aug 4, 2025

This listing has been renewed

daddypaddy · Aug 4, 2025

TDK said:
I think that about sums it up. Additional factors: 1) Ted made a video getting his best accuracy at 1100fps, 2) The South African crew (often, but not always) showcases very hot slug tunes. One of them recently discovered the joys of light 21gr slugs so it has been nice to see that make it into the rotation.

Harsh shot cycle, low shot count, and extensive power mods don't appeal to me. You don't have to shoot over 1000fps to gain the benefits slugs offer vs pellets. 950fps vs 1050 fps is a ~50bar reg increase! I've personally been having fun seeing what I can get out of slugs in the 650fps range.

i used to shoot 17.5 gr nsa with notos at 740 with great results

masci · Aug 4, 2025

Super helpful, thank you. Its not that different from a hammer-hits-valve gun in that regard. The "best" theoretical tune would be a crazy high reg pressure with just enough of a bang to open the valve. That would launch a pellet fast with not much air volume. The realities of spring forces, hammer power, and valve opening times means that it's just not practical to get good accuracy that way on most guns. The hammer force makes the gun jumpy and the valve dwell time and air released get too variable for consistent accuracy.

MikeAndrews · Aug 4, 2025

cavedweller said:
17” barrel - did they put the non FAC port on it?

I’m not sure what port size it has but I would guess it has the larger one.

007*** · Aug 4, 2025

StomperMN said:
As a new Notos owner and new to AGN, I'm loving all this info that is out here for this model! Thanks to all of you for sharing!

Rob

Same boat. The information I have learned in this thread, as well as from a couple of DMs, has been terrific. Great group and I'm happy to be here.

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