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Supply Tank certification

Jgarret7
Jgarret7 said:
I asked this question in another group and got halfway treated like I was a threat to society lol. Most of the commenters were talking about "it's not worth saving a few extra (€€€) to risk your life" indicating they were from the EU. I can't help but wonder if their tanks are DOT certified lol. Here in the US, we are really good at coming up with useless requirements to line the pockets of someone that has no real concern or knowledge of the material, application or industry. Thanks
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I will also add that I am not just trying to save a FEW extra $$. Buying half a dozen of these tanks at a time adds up. roughly a ~1,000$
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Supply Tank certification

Jgarret7
humbled.ag said:
Another consideration is that a 15yr tank in the US is a 30yr tank in Europe. The same exact tank.

Most of the DOT and Certification bs is driven by tort law and insurance companies in the event of a failure. That's not to say we shouldn't have standards, but *I* think it's mostly about money. You're not missing anything. As I stated, using tanks that are past cert or don't have dot certification are to be used at your own discretion and comfort level.
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I asked this question in another group and got halfway treated like I was a threat to society lol. Most of the commenters were talking about "it's not worth saving a few extra (€€€) to risk your life" indicating they were from the EU. I can't help but wonder if their tanks are DOT certified lol. Here in the US, we are really good at coming up with useless requirements to line the pockets of someone that has no real concern or knowledge of the material, application or industry. Thanks
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Supply Tank certification

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Another consideration is that a 15yr tank in the US is a 30yr tank in Europe. The same exact tank.

Most of the DOT and Certification bs is driven by tort law and insurance companies in the event of a failure. That's not to say we shouldn't have standards, but *I* think it's mostly about money. You're not missing anything. As I stated, using tanks that are past cert or don't have dot certification are to be used at your own discretion and comfort level.
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Supply Tank certification

Jgarret7
humbled.ag said:
*Don't be dumb like me* I have an scba tank with a 2002 manufacturing date. It's fine. I fill at work or a friends house. Used tanks can be cheap, but you have to make sure you're comfortable with them being out of date. Another thing to remember, we fill them from roughly 3000-4500psi unlike firefighters or divers going from empty to full on a regular basis. Our use puts far less stress on them so they can last longer. That's my take on the subject.
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As someone who is a consultant in the pressure pumping industry yet new to the air gun world, I am having a hard time with this. I understand pressure and certifications pretty well. But, on my search I have seen so many new tanks on ebay and other online sources that are 50% cheaper due to the lack of DOT certification. Most of these said tanks are however CE certified... To my understanding, DOT is only required in the US (Department of transportation) to travel. Commercial shops here in the US will also require a DOT cert. It is also my understanding that CE certification is required by countries in the EU or China. From what I have found the certification requirements for DOT and CE are almost identical. Seems like a waste to pay 50% more for a citification I wouldn't need if I am filling at home. Maybe I am missing something though.
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DEW POINT

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Ricochet said:
Glad to see I'm not the only one having hell trying to land x's in hot dead wet air. Hope you get it figured. I've put a fan on my gun when i sit it in the Randolph, if i don't the glass sweats. Gun is 70 degrees, and the inside of my shooting shed is about 120 when i open the doors. Without the fan, the gun will start dripping condensation like a glass of tea.
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When the warm and cooler air come together you create mirage. Set the gun up, don't touch it and you can watch your bullseye move around, Not. You created an optical illusion. Plus shooting in wet air or heavy air will slow your projectile down possibly affecting both velocity and point of aim. Learning to stay on top of these conditions separates the top of the list from all the rest when results are known. The longer you stare at it the worse you will shoot in my experience. Your brain tells you your target moved......Your brain has been tricked. It gets even tougher when your flags and the mirage you view don't agree.
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Shooting Airgun in residential neighbourhood

jimmantwo
From what I understand, any BB or pellet pistol is considered a handgun in NJ and requires an FID and a hangun permit - rifles require an FID - both are classified as firearms - some companies previously would ship airguns to me but not any longer. I have to have them shipped and processed to/by a FFL dealer or sent to someone in PA. I think once legally bought most of them are legal to own but not necessarily to use. Suppressors are another issue. We have 3 acres and I can safely shoot but I don't much any more because the laws keep getting more oppressive. Airsoft I think is now legal to sell without restriction to an adult. Depending on who you spoke with - a few years ago they were illegal.
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Supply Tank certification

humbled.ag
*Don't be dumb like me* I have an scba tank with a 2002 manufacturing date. It's fine. I fill at work or a friends house. Used tanks can be cheap, but you have to make sure you're comfortable with them being out of date. Another thing to remember, we fill them from roughly 3000-4500psi unlike firefighters or divers going from empty to full on a regular basis. Our use puts far less stress on them so they can last longer. That's my take on the subject.
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HW/Weihrauch  HW97K Trigger Issues - When Safety is turned off gun fires

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Lewis said:
Did you look at the sear engagement torx screw? Often called the "forbidden screw" for the eaxact reason you describe.

It is discussed here starting at 1:45


Let us know how things turn out.
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Thanks for posting this. That explanation he gave was very clear.
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RTI  Mora, Mora, Mora

EPG
Incredible tight groups at 100 Joe!

This is a group I shot with the AEA 29.5s the very 1st time I used them. It may actually be my 1st 11 shots with them - I was doing some pellet testing at 75 yards using the Great Grandpa of your Mora - the RTI Prophet Performance P1 with .25 LR barrel.

Since no Internet Keyboard Warrior (IKW) 100 Yard Shooter stepped up to comment on your groups, I’ll do the honors:

IKW: “Those groups aren’t bad. I get much tighter groups with my Gamo springer at 100 yards. I’d suggest that you work on your hold technique, and try lubing those pellets with Cam2 Racing Fuel - works well for me with my springer with Crosman Barracudas…”

There… now you have proper Internet feedback, lol 😉

-Ed

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What springer did you shoot today?

crowski
Windmill01 said:
Nice looking dock Crow, hope that’s marine ply.
I haven’t shot any of my 4 air rifles in over a month I think, too busy with bloody doctor appts etc.
So I thought I’d have a face off between my Hw50S and my LGV. Both cold from the safe no warm ups or cherry picking as Mycapt would say. Both 22 cal (that’s all I own) at 20 meters. The target dots are 3/8 of an inch.
The first off the rank on the right was the 50s, 10 shots in all, first shot low, always is in winter next 9 on the money.
LGV up next in the middle, first shot high by about the same distance, next 9 was nearly exactly the same as the 50s.
I think both did exceptionally well, blowing my own horn here.
They are now back in the safe, probably arguing who was the best🤣
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Thanks. Nice shooting. This would be your cool season. Hope the healing is continuous.
The plywood is there just to walk and make adjustment. Will remove.
Yesterday I bought Western cedar. to cover the face, all 5/8x10. 3-8 footers an d 2-12 footers. $350. for 5 boards. What are you guys doing with that wood out west. Ouch. Crow
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Supply Tank certification

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Jgarret7 said:
I recently jumped on the air train. Like last week. I currently have a FX impact M4, Notos , and am ordering a Huben GK1 today. Also, I purchased a GX4-I and a 6.8L tank from Air guns of Arizona. We live on ranch in West Texas and pretty much patrol the ranch nightly. Wither it be changing irrigation in fields, Varmint hunting with friends or my 4 kids. We have quite a few ranch vehicles. We also have a home gun range setup for pistol and LR and either my kids or I are their every day. We shoot burners alot... Having all this in mind, I am worried about having air supply handy. I would like to get some more tanks setup where I can mount them in some of the ranch buggies and maybe one at the range. How many of you that are filling at home worry about the DOT certification? My 6.8 L has it. But I see several on ebay etc. for half the prices that are only CE certified. I realize i would lose the ability to have a shop fill it. But i intend on buying a larger twin compressor for larger fills soon. Just wondering if it's worth the extra money for the DOT stamp in my case. Thanks!
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Springer guy here but if it was me I would go overboard from a safety standpoint. No warning ehen a tank goes.
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Pictures and Stories of our hunts with Springers/Gas-Ram Rifles.

JaketheMeatGOD
Filnez said:
That is some very beautiful country that you are hunting in, I wouldn't last five minutes there, I'm a flatlander! 🤪 Rough country takes a lot of stamina.
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Thanks, I appreciate that.
I personally love rugged highlands, but we also have ultra-flat lands between mountain ranges like this:
Which is perfect for bikes or just running around.

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