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new guy to airguns

bs to all that stuff,until you know what you really want to do , just get a good simple gun that has much good reports and good reviews.do not need all that stuff when starting out.Hand pumping is easy if the air gun does not nee to go pass 3000psi.....it also depends how much money you want to spend .you better off with Benjamin PCP FOR THE MONEY....
I wish I would have started there instead of the Beeman Cheif2, and Gauntlet2. I wound up pulling out the cash and got an FX Crown.
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Do you understand how this filter works and how youll get a yes and a no to this answer?
Take it easy friend. Deep breath. Yeah, I understand it all. Just questioning the order of the bleed valve releases.GX video showed them draining the lower bleed valve of the filter first then the upper, with the compressor bleed valve last. Thats why I asked. But I’ll follow the friendly advice from the gentlemen that answered me above. Carry on.

Daisy  Daisy 853c/753w/753s different “Stock Lengths”

When I was searching the internet to try and understand the stock lengths of the Daisy 753 vs 853, I could not find anything definitive. So this post will cover this topic. I like a bit longer trigger reach so these three models are set up at 14 inches. The 853c (top in picture) has one “butt pad” spacer to get to the 14”. The 753w (middle) has two spacers. And the 753s (bottom) has three spacers. Also as a side note, the spacers supplied with the new synthetic stock fit both 753/853 wood stocks better than the supplied ones that came with the rifle. However, they have a lip on the one side that needs to be removed. Daisy sells the spacers for a $1 each. Just specify for the “synthetic” stock. Hope this helps. Thank you.
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Snowpeak Max 1 Magazine

The Max 1 only comes with 1 magazine. None seem available anywhere. Since the Max 1 shares components with the Snowpeak M60, I decided to take a shot and ordered a Zelos/M60 magazine from Big Air Precision. Unfortunately I ordered .22 and needed .25 (Dunbass). I went ahead and tried the .22, it fit with just a tiny amount of slop. I measured my Max 1 magazine and the M60 magazine. Only one measurement differed, thickness. Max 1 is 15.5mm and M60 is 15mm.

So, I ordered 2 .25 magazines. 0.5mm is a strip of thick tape.

Quietest, and most accurate

Accuracy with a springer takes a lot of practice, especially with hold. With PCP's it's usually on the shooter for pin point accuracy. If your budget allows, I would go the PCP route, much more enjoyable shooting and accuracy wise as well as a more quiet report with a moderator.
PCP is more enjoyable?
Why do I grab a springer more often than a pcp, or pumper, or CO2 gun then?
I guess I'm lazy?
I don’t feel like pulling the compressor out, making room for the gun to charge, waiting on this noisy compressor, hoping the compressor makes it, and doesn't wind up in my dead compressor stack.
Accuracy in PCP is better?
I have three PCP's, and my springers, or pumpers will out shoot two of them.
I do shoot them, but concider them a bit more of a commitment on a lesser scale similar to my powder burners, 👍
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N/A  Ok serious off the wall question

Because what a guy does to win a competition with a barrel is not what most guys want to endure. A barrel that‘s comprised of many parts is just not a good idea when you want consistency day to day, month to month and year to year under all conditions. Solid barrels have no parts and can be used as an integral part of the chassis.

FX Smooth Twist comes to mind. Wasn’t threaded, but boy can they shoot.

Other  Walther 210

shipping worldwide sucks the stories in the states are the same
getting anything out of Germany is a wait and wait some more DHL Germany is a joke
now in the states we have all these fly by night delivery companies i consider them Ubers with packages but they lack one big thing they can't find addresses
well, the rifle is a treat
I’ve had dozens of rifles shipped over the last 6 years. Never had an issue. These last 2 were nothing but a problem. Crow
I remember seeing those rifles up for sale a few months ago. I managed to fight the urge to hit the buy now. Glad they found a good home. . Those 210’s sure are pretty.
Yes same guy. He said there’s nothing wrong with the guns. They’re switching to PCP. Crow
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Help selecting PCP HFT rifle

Thank you Greg. Question, if you have been successful with 0.177 why are you recommending .22?
Sorry for the confusion. If you are only buying one rifle and FT is just one of several things you want to do with it (pesting, hunting, etc) then maybe a .22 is better. If FT is the most important and the other things are not as important, then get a .177.

I have two.177 rifles (a primary FT and a backup FT) and a .22 for when I go to my brother's house and we do some small game hunting. I also shoot the .22 in the AGN 30/40yd Challenge because at 40 yds I can shoot a very good card without having to wait for a really still day. I have some longer-range spinners set up and it is sometimes fun to see how well I do at 70 - 100 yds. Not going to do those with the .177.

Cheers,
Greg
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N/A  Ok serious off the wall question

Yeah I get that part but their barrels are legit. Doesn't matter about the thickness their barrels win a lot of competitions. I would say try and thicken it for harmonics.
IMO, i think the harmonics term, or thing, is very misunderstood and an overused marketing cliche or term used to sell "stuff". Dampening barrel vibration (or whip) at the muzzle end can be accomplished many ways, but it can be neutralized (or most of it) where it begins, by improving barrel quality and breech / action interface. Heck just adding a 1/4" or taking away a 1/4" can have a dramatic affect on whip; you can even add thick O-rings along a barrel at specific increments to absorb vibration. Think of how a rope or whips tip / end will fray when you snap it, the cheaper the weave the faster it shreds. I like FX guns... don't own any anymore but that's because of # of overall parts and o-rings etc... I like simple as in less is more.
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Magpul bipod - squeaky and unstable

Back when they first came out with it, I heard negative reviews of the Magpul bipods. I don't recall what the problems were. But I decided I would not get one.

I've always been happy with my Harris bipods. Never a problem.

Not related other than it's Magpul... back when they came out with Magpul Glock magazines, I bought five of them for my Glock 19. They were about $5 cheaper than factory Glock mags. Mind you.... I had plenty of mags, but I thought I'd give these a try and use them at the range. Hoo-boy. Every single one of the five Magpul Glock mags I bought turned my otherwise INFALLIBLE Gen 2 Glock 19 into a jam-o-matic. Multiple failures to feed on a single full load of the magazine. And it was all five of them. For what it's worth! :)
I have had a cheap one in the past; it's like night and day cheap VS Harris. I have a better idea

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Tuning  Regulator pressure VS Hammer Spring tension

Apologies for bringing up an oldie, but a great ttuning thread imo.

I have a thought for conversation...,My .22 zelos likes 870 fps for the 18.13 pellets. I have gotten there bumping up the reg, and backing off he h.s., and vice versa with the same group sizes. What are your thoughts.

My set up with...
1. Higher reg psi, and less hammer spring feels ,and sounds sluggish compared to...

2. Lower reg. and up the hammer spring? Seems snappiier, and quiet.

let's leave shot count, sd and es at the proverbial door for now. I am more interested in finding if your rig groups better with a higher reg.?, or more H.S. Tension to get to the same fps?

Thanks for your ideas....
Gerry

“ I am more interested in finding if your rig groups better with a higher reg.?, or more H.S. Tension to get to the same fps?”

Following here……

I’m equally interested in others answering this question. Essentially, your question is getting at achieving better accuracy with adjusting for higher reg pressure and increasing HS.

FWIW - I participate in a regular 30-40y informal AGN target challenge. Although I have shot some really good scores with rifles (outdoors with wind at an open range) at lower velocities in the 800-830 fps range; I find that turning my HS up and increasing velocity has been yielding excellent accuracy and scores, especially at 30 and 40 yards.

Three examples: Taipan vet2 shooting AEA 21.9 at 910-930 fps range with tweaking Speed Dialer only at 135 BAR set point. RAW HM1000x shooting JTS 22.07g at 990 fps range with reg at 150 BAR. FX Royale .22 with JSB 20.83g lights at 880 fps and 150 BAR set point.

These three rifles consistently out shoot my other lower velocity, efficiently tuned rifles for both accuracy and scoring purposes.

Events  IFTA monthly report

This is the Iowa Field Target Association monthly report for July 2025.



The next field target competition with the Iowa Filed Target Association will be held Sunday August 24, 2025 starting at 1:00 pm.

At the West Liberty Gun Club.



The Facebook group now has 46 members.

Thank you, to all the people that are making this happen.



A lot has happened at the airgun range this month. There are now five field target lanes we can lay out in a wooded setting and a 75 yard plus benchrest lane. In addition to the four lane practice course with a sight in lane that is open and set up for club use seven days a week.



The field target lanes has been expanded to five lanes. One lane for sight in. And there are twelve reactive targets permanently set up in four lanes for anyone to use when the range is open or during public hours.

In addition there is now a 75 yards benchrest lane West of the field target course. This is also the sight in range for doing work with sights and scopes.

The weather is still hot. Sun screen / bug spray and pop up tent are still good to have. Definitely need a hat. And light weight long pants and shirt keeps the flys away. I go to the range at 8:00 am and shoot for an hour or so every Saturday and Sunday if anyone wants to join me.



The airgun range is open to the public and club members. The sight in range is set with permanent markers and you can move your own targets in that area.

There are animal silhouettes with open kill zones set in the field target lanes. These are operated by shooting the lower paddle then the upper kill zones is reset. Feel free to move the animal targets. Don’t push them in to the ground by the silhouette. It will bend or cut you. Hold the base and just push the spike into the ground. Make sure the paddles work.

Eye and ear protection are required at all time and a hat is strongly recommended at the range. Mosquitoes are pretty thick back in the wooded section so bring some spray.



If you live in the West Liberty Iowa area. And you want to shoot airguns or Airgun Field Target or bench rest. . Please consider joining the West Liberty Gun Club.

If you join the West Liberty Gun club you can use the Airgun range, pistol bays, 100 yard range and trap corse anytime the range is open. Unless there is a competition.

Public hours are Saturday and Sunday 1-5 pm.

CHECK THE SCHEDULE!

Public access is sometimes suspended during large competition events.

Report to the range officer building before going to the range.

Club members can shoot from 8am - dusk seven days a week. I will be at the range Saturday mornings.

If you are interested in getting together for Saturday or Sunday morning shooting matches . PM me or Email.

I will provide more details as things progress.



This is a link to the West Liberty Gun Club.


https://www.westlibertygunclub.org/members-page



This is the IFTA email address



[email protected]



Thank you all for participating and getting the sport of Field Target going in IOWA.

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