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Quietest, and most accurate

I've been shooting and hunting all my life, but never with airguns. Do you advise starting with a simple break barrel rifle, or jumping right into PCP with all the related paraphernalia?

Main use would be for general plinking and target shooting, marksmanship training, perhaps some small pest control and light hunting. I'm not a competitive shooter, but accuracy is important and would like to be able to consistently achieve 1" groups at 30 - 50 yards with practice. I prefer classic looking rifles over the modern chassis/bullpup/AR styles. I also need back yard friendly noise levels, and this might be the most important thing. It needs to be as QUIET as possible. Cost isn't the biggest concern, but is a factor. I know break barrels are simpler and cheaper. But what is the quietest and most accurate without making a huge commitment?
All good advice so far ,,,, confused yet? I've had a Marauder, yes quiet & accurate . Handle like you're holding a 2, no a 3x4 ! I have a BSA R TEN , beautiful, accurate & quiet. Used to be a 4 figure gun that went down to 3 figures ( I bought it then) , I believe it's been replaced w/ R 12. Now have 3 AirMaks Katrans, 4
figure guns also but on sale at UA ( moving sale) ,EXCELLENT gun ,quiet, great trigger ,chassis type gun. Yes ,you'll need a compressor , or tank, or hand pump.
Yes , I have them all( and multiples of some). I have one springer, but if you go that route , HW something ( #'s) is a no brainier. OH & welcome to the [ stampeding] herd !

Classic style rifle. What would your choice be?

I just checked again. If you click on .22, Dark Wood, and 330mm, it should show "Available". The other versions in .177 and .22 in regular wood stock appears to be out of stock or says to call for availability.

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Classic style rifle. What would your choice be?

The BSA R10 has always been on my list of guns to own someday. It has a bottle but not a burden of a bottle. Do a search of the R10 on here. I know several guys who have had them and discussed the gun. I’m sorry I can’t remember their names right now. I have a BSA Ultra SE and it’s a quality piece, comfortable ergos, and exceptionally accurate. If the guy hasn’t messed with that R10, you might want to jump on it if it’s priced right. The guys who have left their R10’s alone seemed happy.

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Crosman 622 trigger upgrade question

I did the same thing made a pin to keep everything in line, that worked ok. I had the most trouble with the mechanism that rotated the magazine the rear spring is kind of pain in the #### to keep in place while it assemble the the two halves. I was fortunate that the rifle had just been sitting for the past 20 odd years with very little or no use other than dried out "O" rings wasn't too bad. I looks cosmetically like new.

N/A  Another newbie looking for advice

I have to dispute the claim "For compressor everyone recommends a GX4 which is what I have.". I don't recommend a GX4 because of the size and weight.
I understand that they are a good choice for some, but I find them too bulky and heavy for my weekly transport to the range and filling my guns during 6 hours of almost continual shooting.

I agree with your post, in the main, of course.
The GX 4 is hardly larger than a lunch box. I have one and love it.

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SC Johnson Paste Wax Discontinued!

Pure carnauba wax is really hard, and is difficult to scratch with your fingernail, unlike beeswax or paraffin.

I have about 3-4 lbs of pure Brazilian carnauba wax, that I got from my grandfather (he's been gone for 30 years now). It needs to be mixed with other waxes and a solvent to be able to be used. After a long search, I found a formula for it, which consists of carnauba wax, beeswax and turpentine. I found some formulas from his old chemical formulary, but they were from materials that are very toxic and practically unobtainable these days. When it cools down, I'll going to try to make some. I have no experience with wax making, so it will be a comedy of errors, for sure. Hope it works.

N/A  Another newbie looking for advice

Hi ya'll. I've been lurking here for years and am finally deciding to get into pcp's. I'm a long time gun hunter and shooter, do some reloading and have shot a lot of 3-D archery. My old bones are making 3D difficult and I'd like to have a shooting sport I could do on my small hunting plot if I didn't feel like putting all the gear together to go to the gun range. So, here we are. I imagine that some folks may be annoyed by these "where do I start threads" but we all have to start somewhere, so I appreciate your help and patience.

First, I want dependable stuff. While I like to tinker, I do not want to have to be working on stuff all the time to keep it going. Of course, my biggest concern is compressors. I will never spend much time rebuilding compressors ; I think that would kill my interest in the sport. Is it reasonable to think that a moderately priced unit (GX 3-I for example) would likely be reliable for filling 1-2 bottle fed rifles a few times a week ?

Next for a gun. I'm looking for light, reliable with high shot count. I'm talking a plinker, walk-around squirrel gun that I'll also shoot paper with out to maybe 75ish. I'm torn between a budget rifle to see if I really like it or jumping into a higher-end rifle as a do-all , at least for now. I like what I see with the shorter Stoeger XM1 in 22 with a 40ish regulated shot count. I've been in the archery rabbit hole for years so I kinda know where this is headed, lol. I like the bottle version of the FX Dreamline as well but I know there's a bunch of good choices in between these two.

I'm trying to be smart about starting out on this but there are so many options it's almost overwhelming. The amount of knowledge people have on this site is tremendous and I appreciate your input.
Start with a pre-owned Daystate Huntsman, then depending on how you like, you will know if something newer in the Daystate lineup suits your fancy, or perhaps another brand.

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I would head to RTI’s factory and say let’s build a traditional carbine rifle. Tube air tank, big enough plenum, their balance valve, 380-400mm barrel, full active shroud, laminate and walnut stock, about 36” OAL, quiet, powerful and no mod necessary. When you remove the action from the stock there are cut out areas where you can add lead or tungsten slugs to add as much weight as you want. You can purchase the slugs from your RTI dealer. Then film all the airgun hunters doing backflips.

Oh, one last thing. The RPB barrel will be threaded into the receiver. None of this multi caliber crap. It creates weaknesses. If you want two calibers because you love the gun, put on your big boy pants and buy two guns.
I'd take this design and add the Edgun R5 barrel tensioning and 360 degree transfer port. The barrel would screw into the transfer port part (brass?) and be tensioned within the shroud via threads on the front of the barrel..so barrel threaded on both ends, but no transfer port cut into the barrel or rifling. This would accommodate caliber changes. ;)

New squirrel feeder = busy backyard

I made a squirrel feeder out of 3 inch PVC and screwed it to a tree about 50 yards from my patio where I normally shoot from. Well, the word has gotten out and it’s become a hangout for the locals. The squirrels are really enjoying it and I don’t mind the cardinals getting something to eat but I’m not going to feed the crows.
This morning I gave them a little lesson with the .25 Krait shooting 25 gr. At 930. View attachment 582027
Great work ! Now we need to see the feeder !
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Quietest, and most accurate

I've been shooting and hunting all my life, but never with airguns. Do you advise starting with a simple break barrel rifle, or jumping right into PCP with all the related paraphernalia?

Main use would be for general plinking and target shooting, marksmanship training, perhaps some small pest control and light hunting. I'm not a competitive shooter, but accuracy is important and would like to be able to consistently achieve 1" groups at 30 - 50 yards with practice. I prefer classic looking rifles over the modern chassis/bullpup/AR styles. I also need back yard friendly noise levels, and this might be the most important thing. It needs to be as QUIET as possible. Cost isn't the biggest concern, but is a factor. I know break barrels are simpler and cheaper. But what is the quietest and most accurate without making a huge commitment?
Dive right into pcp, you will enjoy it. Accuracy and consistency will increase the more you spend, but you can get into it on the cheap too. Get a compressor and rifle. Most barrels are threaded to accept a moderator if you are concerned about noise. I have a few guns that are internally baffled as well, those are completely silent with a moderator attached.

N/A  Ok serious off the wall question

I would head to RTI’s factory and say let’s build a traditional carbine rifle. Tube air tank, big enough plenum, their balance valve, 380-400mm barrel, full active shroud, laminate and walnut stock, about 36” OAL, quiet, powerful and no mod necessary. When you remove the action from the stock there are cut out areas where you can add lead or tungsten slugs to add as much weight as you want. You can purchase the slugs from your RTI dealer. Then film all the airgun hunters doing backflips.

Oh, one last thing. The RPB barrel will be threaded into the receiver. None of this multi caliber crap. It creates weaknesses. If you want two calibers because you love the gun, put on your big boy pants and buy two guns.
Not everyone has 2 guns money lol

What did you do airgun related today.

I was , so bored taking it easy I went down to Ace Hardware with my extra Zelos barrel , and bought 2 feet of plastic tubing. The idea was to slip it over barrel to help with vibration. I got the Idea from when I was a archer as we used these plastic pieces on the string to make the twang go away.
I got the tubing covered the back part of the barrel , and all I could under the shroud. It was a great Idea , and made the rifle very quiet. I used the left over price between the bottle , and the barrel to help there. Got some great accuracy. I swear I can't wait to get my Stinger gun rest if I was not established as OldVet my name would be wiggler. It was 104 °F out , but hey me , and flies , and the mosquitos were in the shade in the back yard. Got off some of the best 5 shot groups I ever did ,so far with using that new double mag too OldVet

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Crosman 622 trigger upgrade question

I made a bulk fill adapter for mine and pinned the valve. Then ground the sear away to eradicate all the creep in the trigger. Worked pretty well. Not recommending everybody try this it takes a "skilled guess" (WAG?) and assorted shop abilities. Split the clam shell halves on a 622 receiver and you'll have some fun getting it back together. Many are warped from use and the action wiggles around. I turned a pin on my lathe to hold the trigger and springs in place while I assemble them so you can get the halves back together with your sanity. That works pretty good.

N/A  Ok serious off the wall question

I would build a delta wolf compact no chrony so as compact as an M3 or Epoch compact, but a smart enough onboard that you can program weight and caliber for the speed you want out of the projectile and know what it will do without a chronograph. With a smoth carbon fiber bullpup chassis. And make actual damn large magazines for it, lol.
That would be something to built with the the laminate stock still?

Other  Walther 210

Nice rifle Crow. I have a 210 Jr. that is a treat to shoot.
You will enjoy that Walther for years to come, well done!
Thanks. I was under the impression this was a Jr. Sweet gun. Crow
very nice and it was shipped from where to Canada
these have to be very rare rifle
Thanks. Shipped from Alberta. Purolator (I could throw in a dozen choose adjectives to call them). The babiling excuses were rediculas. I told her I didn’t want to hear the labour pains. Just want to see the baby.
In there a half hour.
I’m thinking there’s not too many, especially up here.
When Purolator called and told me they were refunding my coin. I told them find that rifle. It can’t be replaced.
The guy I got the 3 rifles from trains future olympic shooters. Crow
You do not see very many of the LG 210s come on the market over here. You will see them infrequently on Egun even, if that tells you anything about scarcity.

It is the last SSP 10 meter rifle that Walther manufactured, and was Walthers answer to the FWB 603, Anschutz 2002 Superair, and Steyr LG 10.
Well I believe you. I put 50-60 rounds through. They certainly don’t make airguns like this any more. The trigger. The loading is so cool. Amazing accuracy. Everything is perfect, operates perfect. I have to learn a little more on using these sights.
The guy I got it from said it was his most accurate of the 3 I got from him, a FWB 300 jr as well a FWB 150. Crow
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