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night pesting - best budget thermal, as of july'25

That is pretty cool, I was not tracking this. I’ll do some googling to better understand it but two things immediately jump to mind. I’m assuming it is a Bluetooth connection, so you could turn it into a data stream once you are on the iPad and send it wherever you want. That’s neat. Second, do these modern thermals have a life expectancy? If so, how is that measured?
I don't know. Old model Pulsars had an hour meter running. None of mine have died, nor have I had any issues with them. They are electronics and I expect that someday they will need to be replaced. I plan on having a couple (or eight :) ) until I'm in the ground.
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Flies for targets

I am somewhat new here but I do not see many talking about shooting flies for targets. A number of years ago when Beeman was a name and I was shooting my R1 a group of us would bait flies. A short length of dowel rod or even a stick stuck in the ground with a dab of hamburger meat on the top end. It was great fun to sit back maybe 50~75 feet and wait for a fly to land. Would not take long. We would take turns shooting and if your shot touched the meat you did not score. Even more fun arguing about you touched the meat, no I didn't.

Quietest, and most accurate

I have a number of PCPs as well as springers. Good marksmanship needs to be developed and practiced regardless of what you shoot. I disagree with many who say you need to hold a springer a certain way (artillery hold) to get them to shoot well. I never use that and my springers are exceedingly accurate as long as I am consistent the way I hold it and align the sights. Again, practice, practice. Fortunately for new shooters like you there are good shooting rifles in each category that won't break the bank. PCPs are easier to shoot, but as you say, you need all the support equipment that goes along with those. If you don't want to go that route, but just dip your toe in the airgun waters, buy a good quality springer, and not a cheap one. Any HW model is a good choice. For around $400 you can get an HW30 or HW50. If you want more power, then for $100 more get an HW95. A Diana 34 has a good reputation as well. These shoot pretty well out of the box, but later, you many want to improve their behavior or change power levels with a spring kit/tune. If you have any mechanical skills you can do it yourself. There are also plenty of Youtube videos describing how to do this. Don't get sucked into the magnum idea. A good accurate rifle shooting 12 to 20 fpe will do what you are intending.

Also, there are good used rifles on the market as well. Check the classifieds on this forum and what the dealers have availble. AOA has a good selection and they test each rifle before shipping to you. Happy shooting.

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Is there a big difference in sound level between various PCP's? Which ones are considered among the most quiet?
Yes there is, ones with a baffeled shroud combined with a moderator that has baffels are going to be really silent. Not all PCP's come that way. I have a Taiapn Veteran 2 that has a baffeled shroud with an add on moderator that makes it very quiet. AGT, Taipan, FX and some others come with shrouds and or moderators that make their report on the quiet side. Smaller calibers will be more quiet than larger calibers.

Garmin Xero C1 newest update?

I had to go look, but sure enough, mine's updated also, and I had no idea it did it ???
Yes you have to be carful or it will update when connected to your phone. I made effort to not have it do so prior to today.
Updated mine today as it seems from what a few of you say anyway, it's a good update.

Quietest, and most accurate

Accuracy with a springer takes a lot of practice, especially with hold. With PCP's it's usually on the shooter for pin point accuracy. If your budget allows, I would go the PCP route, much more enjoyable shooting and accuracy wise as well as a mode quiet report with a moderator.
Is there a big difference in sound level between various PCP's? Which ones are considered among the most quiet?
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What Paper Target Did You Shoot Today

Shot three different pellets through the Zelos today. The top row is FX 25.39, followed by JTS Dead Center 25.39. The third tachycardic row is Olympia Domes XL Middle 25gr, the worst tin of pellets I’ve ever used. Full of lead shavings in the tin. The yellow highlighted row was where I was aiming.
I shot the Wildcat and the Crown in the following rows, hitting the reg on both guns. Both shot the FX 25.39. (.25 cals at 20 yards.)

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Quietest, and most accurate

Accuracy with a springer takes a lot of practice, especially with hold. With PCP's it's usually on the shooter for pin point accuracy. If your budget allows, I would go the PCP route, much more enjoyable shooting and accuracy wise as well as a more quiet report with a moderator.

Springer vs. PCP

Well a 25cal is unethical for water buffalo...


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You are just being silly (n). Every hunter decides for themselves what is sporting and what is not and what is ethical and what is not. Your springs guns, none of them, meet my criteria no matter how much you whine about my choices. They are my choices. You do you. I will do me. Springer vs PCP, no contest. Make mine PCP, I have no use for springer guns.

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