Ratzy said:

Other than the prices, yes, none under $1,000 new.
Look in the classifieds to see the going prices used. Wildcat used would probably be your best bet for a FX bullpup. Generally a few for sale.

Then there is the complexity factor. More than a few threads with owners having issues with tuning their gun to their desired ammo.

FX, Daystate and a few other are the deep end of the PCP pool. Lots of adjustability but a fairly steep learning curve for the newbie.

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I am a competitive shooter and reloader so I understand that rabbit hole though I’m not sure I want to stick my head very far through another door? Good advice, thnx

I hve bought around 70,000 pellets from Amazon, mainly CPHP 14.3 gr, but the damaged pellets seem to be JSB, terrible skirts.

Good condition JSB seem to shoot a bit better than the CPHP, which are generally both better than H&N. Lots of bad H&N skirts, as well as JSB from whereever I have bought them. At 2x or 2x the price, it's difficult to justify them, IME.

Perhaps, if I were in a larger airgun/pellet market like USA or UK, that would not be the case.

Many years ago, my powder burners were just fine and then, I got a chronograph.

The powder burners suddenly became very ill. Not a one gave velocities anywhere close to published numbers.....beware the chrono

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If it is like the Barrage and Bullmaster next to the gauge. Common screwdriver.

I've always loved the tactical look, and I bought the specific TTR-1 directly when it launched in FAC version. The rest is customized but all in the tactical theme, with a Tactical Vanquish and Tactical Chassis.

Especially love the quality and side bolt cocking and would love to see other brands develop a nice smooth bolt like caking system.

Wilsoncreek said:

The Notos keeps coming up in almost every ”best of” list. That one is def going to get a hard look

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Bang for your buck Umarex is hitting on all cylinders with Notos and Zelos. Both made by Snowpeak in China and rebranded by Umarex in the US.

Personally, I'd go Zelos. Comes out of the box hitting hard. Notos needs a bit of help.

Zelos and Snowpeak M60b are virtually the same gun.

Notos and Snowpeak PP750 virtually the same.

Hello Fellow Shooters,

Four brave shooters attended on a warm day with light steady breeze progressing to a bit hot 90 or so degrees and a strong, steady breeze, but not quite what I'd call a wind.

The course was set up as a nice 33.20 Troyer rating before modifications. One target had a bad day so 58 was the best possible score instead of our usual 60 shot match. The wind/breeze was a factor on some shots but not overly so.

Scotty had no peers and easily took 1st in Hunter PCP. Robert D. was challenged but reigned supreme in Hunter Piston! Jim C. said "I'm putting my springer back in the closet!"

The results:

Hunter PCP

Scotty H. RAW TM1000, Falcon X50-FT, FX 13.4 gr 46/58 for 79%

Hunter Piston

Robert D. TX200, Hawke 8-24 x 56, H&N Barracuda FT 9.57 gr 30/58 for 52%
Billy D. TX200, Hawke 6-24, JSB 10.34 gr 29/58 for 50%
Jim C. AA Prosport, Hawke 8-24 x 56, RM 10.3 gr 23/58 for 40%

Boerne Field Target Club shoots monthly on the Second Saturday of the month. We sport 10 wooded lanes with lots of shade and a friendly, small club atmosphere.

Fee is $20 per person, but first time shooters at the club are free.

Show time is 8:00 a.m. with safety talk and match start at 9:00 a.m.

We do a 60 shot match, so you get your money's worth!

We're located at the Boerne Shooting Club: 33 Shooting Club Road, Boerne Texas, 78006. Boerne is a small community about 20 miles northwest of San Antonio, Texas just off I-10.

The match director is Robert D. and can be reached at [email protected] or text to 210-414-1865

Wilsoncreek said:

From what I’m reading/hearing it’s hard to go wrong with an FX. They seem to be a quality company and their products stand the test of time

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Other than the prices, yes, none under $1,000 new.
Look in the classifieds to see the going prices used. Wildcat used would probably be your best bet for a FX bullpup. Generally a few for sale.

Then there is the complexity factor. More than a few threads with owners having issues with tuning their gun to their desired ammo.

FX, Daystate and a few other are the deep end of the PCP pool. Lots of adjustability but a fairly steep learning curve for the newbie.

CoyoteGod said:

100% recommend buying used. Make your money go further. I took this advice years ago and it worked out nicely for me when I moved up to a high end Airgun from my first PCP which was a Airforce Talon SS in 22 caliber. Had it 18 years. Was fantastic. If tuning is remotely confusing start simple. Get something like an RTI P2 performance where you just set regulator pressure to get desired pellet speed and hammer spring to open and close … simple. This is just an example. Lots of adjustments for tuning can become confusing and get you lost just starting out. But learning quickly is fun too, some guys with mechanical minds have no issues and just pick up highly tunable Airguns and just go for it and never look back. lol.

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Perfect! Thnx

Revoman said:

Welcome the best Forum on the web, air gun related or not. There's tons of knowledge here by mostly friendly folks.
Your price range might include a few new rifles, but there are plenty of used rifles as well. Just do your homework on the seller if here on AGN, or anywhere else for that matter.
Simplicity is always a good thing for the newbs. You may wish to look at a used FX Streamline or Crown, they are simple and easy to work on. The Streamline seems to be the basis for the Crown platform but may not have as many parts available now. The Crown, however, is still made and has a large following, so parts are likely available for some time.
Used Crowns can be had in your approximate price range too.
Of course, any and all other suggestions as above are worth investigating as well.

mike

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From what I’m reading/hearing it’s hard to go wrong with an FX. They seem to be a quality company and their products stand the test of time

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maxtrouble said:

Welcome to Airgun Nation. I suggest checking out the Umarex Notos. Easy on the budget, hand pump friendly and upgradable. Air Venturi is coming out with their own version, I would check that out also. Whole package under $1k will get the carbine, hand pump, optics, pellets, rifle case, Patch Worm and a range bag to carry all your newly acquired accoutrements.

Always buy quality pellets. They will shoot better. Watch some reviews and make sure to buy that ammo. Most places have deals on pellets. Buy them in bulk, you are going to need them.

Set a budget!

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The Notos keeps coming up in almost every ”best of” list. That one is def going to get a hard look

MOhunter said:

Just a quick 2c worth on bullpups is the length of trigger pull. I owned a bullpup once and didn't like how I had to bring my arm in just to get it to my shoulder. for me it made it really aggravating. If you're not worried about it that's fine but you should at least consider it.

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Good point. I have messed with firearm bullpups and the triggers were one thing that always turned me off. I had hoped that quality PCP airgun companies had done it better

Nice!

JoePolanco said:

The Mora is an amazing gun. We've started a dedicated Facebook group to help with setup, tuning, maintenance and general info. The group is public so if you have questions.... RTI Mora on Facebook

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I was just on Facebook, glad to see a few people on there, I wish there were ten times that

Ratzy said:

Reximex Throne 2 (new)
Most of the adjustability of rifles 2-3 times as expensive. Accurate to my 45yard limit.
.25 could use a little larger transfer port but regulator setting can make up for that, fewer shots per fill.

FX Bobcat or Wildcat (used)
Bobcat, if you can find one, is an amazing rifle. A little bigger than the usual bullpup. Incredibly accurate and simple mechanically. Wildcat is the current generation with more adjustments.

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Not familiar with Reximex but have seen them on dealers’ websites and was curious. Added to the list for research!

Ratzy said:

While not bullpup, not very long
AirForce Talon or its longer brethren Condor
Don't be put off by single shot. Loads quickly.
Probably the simplest gun mechanically
Can be upgraded easily and quite often in just minutes
Change from 12" barrel .22 to 19" barrel .25 in 10 minutes.
Add a regulator and high flow valve 5 minutes
Change to heavy spring and hammer 10 minutes.

Can be hand pumped but a compressor is recommended

Condor .22 blemished

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Experience superior accuracy with the Condor Air Rifle in .22 caliber. Shop now for precision shooting!

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Great rec, thnx. I have a friend who has an AirForce and that rifle shoots! Definitely on the short list if I decide the bullpup isn’t really what I want

rc4fun said:

Welcome. Don't forget about the air if you are getting a pcp.

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Good point, thnx. I’m a diver so I have tanks available but I need to start looking for a compressor

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