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N/A  Webley Hurricane

Man , I think I scored a beauty. Looks like keeper. A Webley Hurricane .22 cal.
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Such a cool looking gun. Honestly don’t know much about them. But love the design.
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Amazing the condition. I will shoot it, not a lot, but I will.
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Shot a few rounds. Not bad accuracy. Just about ripped out an inch of skin off leg jacking it. Technique is imperative. Crow

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Western Airguns  Western Airguns Mordax Venom

I was watching some Youtube hunting videos and came across this video. Apparently, Western Airguns released a bottled version (Larger reg too!) of the Mordax. I'm intrigued by it. Anyone have this gun in .22 and if it's able to produce more power than the aluminum tube version? I am also wondering if this is a better buy than the Edgun Leshiy 2. 🤔


Karma  Karma EQ trigger work...

Ok, finally got down to working on the trigger this afternoon for the EQ.

Initially, without doing anything but using the four adjustment means, I was able to get it to 2lbs and small change. As I've mentioned, I come from Service Rifle competition and minimum there is 4.5lbs. 2lbs feels really light to me. However, I didn't like the long 1st stage and there was a bit of bumpy creep just before the break.

I ran about 500rds thru it @ 2lbs before nearly total disassembly (in another thread). The regulator is creepy (down...which is different from everybody else's comments) and I wanted to address the trigger.

I've gone on record here stating that factory triggers nearly always need work...and that the roughness in the EQ trigger is just a by-product of their production line. Buy a $$$$$ rifle and you're probably still going to have your favorite smith work on the trigger. All my competition rifles and pistols have had that done...some by myself. Makes a big difference.

Got the sear out, no problem. Here's what the sear surface looked like. Typical transverse machine marks across the face. Lumpy-Bumpy!
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Here's what it looks like now, after very careful stoning (I think my finest Shapton stone is 5000 grit). Only the barest minimum of the left edge is the actual sear surface when engaged. I looked at the adjacent surface on the hammer bar and it actually looked OK. When I start working on the hammer and spring, I may touch that surface up...maybe.

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And here's the result:

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Way too light for me...but very crisp! I bumped it up to 1lb 4oz, just because I had trouble feeling the 2nd stage wall at 15.5oz. The trigger return spring (1st stage) runs around 9oz, depending on the length of pull you set. Shorter pull, lighter 1st stage, etc.

Here's a picture of my modification to the trigger bar and return spring.

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The bar is simply a piece of 1/8" rod with some rolled grooves on either end and then three grooves where the trigger return spring has an e-clip (they're not threads but they look like threads). Each end has a block with a grub screw and the bar can be variously positioned to adjust the trigger position. The three tiny grooves and the e-clip allow a tiny amount of adjustment to the 1st stage weight. I musta dropped that *&$^#(@!! e-clip about a half-dozen times, fished it out from under the bench with a magnet, etc., etc. Being an old aero-modeller, I knew I could fix that with a 1/8" stop-collar. You can get them from Du-Bro, they're sold as "wheel collars". It takes a 0.050" allen wrench.

The trigger has to have a return spring to push the trigger forward when the sear is reset during cocking. The damned thing looks like it came out of a ballpoint pen...and I'm sure one could find lighter, heavier, shorter and longer versions if you really wanted to play with it.

My procedure was to fix the trigger bar into the rear block with about 4 grooves showing forward of the block. Then I adjusted the forward end of the bar into the trigger until I got pretty close to the 1st stage length I wanted. At least, that was my starting point. Then, I adjusted the trigger return spring to as light as it would go. Dry fire the rifle (safety first!). Adjust one end, adjust the spring if needed, dry fire. Lather, rinse and repeat.

This procedure is really fiddly. There's no screw adjustments, you have to loosen the grub screw, shift the rod a tiny amount, retighten, check...try again. Eventually, it comes together as you learn what does what. If I get really frustrated with it, I think I'll get a few pieces of 1/8" ID brass tubing and use a pair of stop collars on the aft end of the rod. The tubing would space the adjustment collars away from the sear housing (easier to get to). When you have two collars, you can use a feeler gauge to move them around, make tiny adjustments, etc.

More than one way to skin a cat. There are other ways to get it done.

Ring prices

Yeah but theyre not windage adjustable like you can do with Burris.
What do you mean by windage adjustable rings? Why would you want to adjust left or right with the scope rings instead of the turret?

Just to clarify you do know I'm referring to the MOA adjustable rings, not height adjustable, right?

EDgun West July Gear Drop - Act Fast, limited quantities!

This month’s drop is short, powerful, and packed with rare gear.

Here’s what just hit the site:
  • Dedal 5-20x56 (x2) – The king of low-light long-range.
  • Dedal 3-12x50 (x2) – Elite glass for tight, tactical setups.
  • EDgun Leshiy 2 “Night Goblin” – Custom 250mm Leshiy 2 builds (.22 & .25 cal option) paired with the ultra compact Guide TE211M Thermal Scope and housed in an exclusive padded backpack.

This is full predator mode. Designed for nighttime missions. Only two units available.

Don’t sleep on this drop… because the Night Goblin doesn’t either.

Show the Drop Now, quantities are VERY LIMITED!!

https://www.edgunwest.com/Store/edgun-west-gearbox/

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Events  2025 Oregon State Field Target Championships and AAFTA GP

Weather report says Clear and HOT but low humidity for the match. Highs from 94 on Friday down to 89 on Sunday, lows at night in the low 60s, humidity during the day of 30-35%, and winds 6-13mph in the afternoons.
We will have shade over the shooting stations again this year.

more detailed report

POI shift ?

Thread title: POI Shift?
The original purposed question by the O.P.
“But from day to day or whatever time frame you pick is it that uncommon”?

For the experienced, educated skilled shooter, employing quality equipment, ammo & wrote technique “Yes it is uncommon”.
The greatest challenge lies in compensating for atmospherics which will indeed change your POI most noticeably at distance.

Shooting in the same location, under like conditions, I have never experienced POI shift with quality equipment. I have hunted game with a kill zone the size of a walnut for 50 years at distances out to 150 yards and never experienced a noticeable POI change wether it be an airgun or a PB.

As to parallax - my scopes have no adjustment for that nor is it needed or even desired in my application. The scope has a fixed parallax at 100 yards and yet the only time it gets fuzzy is about 25 yards and in but still clear enough for a kill shot. As long as your eye is centered in the scope every time with the proper cheek weld you can throw Parallax out the window. The marketing and falsified information is out of control.

As to zeroing - anything more than a one shot zero, followed by a confirmation shot or two, is a waste of time and good quality ammo!

What works for me might not work for you but I think you would have to agree quality equipment & its earned reputation plays a major role.

RadioFlyer

Other  thoughts on "tactical" vs traditional rifle

I like both. For a hunting gun I prefer a traditionally styled rifle. They are more comfortable to carry and point. For target shooting I prefer a gun with a vertical pistol grip. Especially when shooting prone or from a bench.

When FX came out with the DRS tactical there seemed to be a few people who were against the AR15ish style to it. And they didn’t just think it was ugly. They almost seemed to be offended by it. I don’t understand why.

GX air filter

I have the GX filter on my CS2 and I also like it. I normally use my bottle refilled by my Yong Heng but when the bottle is not full enough or the Yong Heng is acting up I use the CS2. My Yong Heng has a different dessicant filled filter in addition to the little absorbent filter it came with. That filter is filled with color changing beads which I find handy for determining when it needs to be replaced. No signs of moisture from either of my setups.

Taipan  Taipan Slash first tuning report.

I think it's a bit scummy to advertise a high-power airgun, and then lock the max power setting behind a paywall. Especially for an airgun in this price range. The high-power kit should've been included in the box.

Anyway, I'm still waiting for those range reviews. So far there is still only 1 video on youtube where someone actually shoots it.
I agree with the spirit of your argument 100%… but even stock the power level at .25 puts it in a fairly elite category power wise. Yeah it’s an expensive gun no doubt but there’s plenty of other brands where you’re gonna spend as much just to get it to stock Slash levels.

Other  Why so many .25 cal. for sale?

The only thing I can think of is it's the end of the line for backyard friendly. 25 is a "magic" caliber for me. The best balance of power, trajectory and frontal area for hunting. It's not for the backyard or urban shooter usually. My air use isn't much worse than 22 or 177. 16 shots on the 25 mrod at 30fpe, 20 shots on a 177 disco at 14fpe. 32 shots from a compact dreamline25 at 43 fpe.
32 shots from a dreamline compact at 43 fps 0.25 ?
Before it falls of the reg?
Compact with the aluminium 170cc tube?

GX air filter

As many of you may know, I've used nitrogen exclusively for a long while now and it keeps everything nice and clean, and above all, dry. Well, I'm getting tired of running out all the time to get new cylinders. I'm not saying I'm going to stop using n2, but I thought with the new GX filter out, I'd give it a try.
I installed it today, great kit and really easy to setup and use. GX thought of everything.
To fill the filter and get air started to your gun adds almost exactly one minute, so the added time is not a big issue.
One thing that I do notice is that when feeding my compressor 10 psi of n2, it pumps slightly faster than using air, but again, not a big deal.

The filter looks like it's super well built and would last almost forever, and according to GX the filter media is good for a long time. The advert says a year, or that's how I take the graphic included with the unit. I think I'll change it three times a year and be good. I already still have a quart jar of desicant from using a filter before, so I'm good for a long time. I'll try it for a while and see how it goes. At the least, If I do go back to n2 and run out, I still have a quick way to switch over and use air.

Tuning  General Operational and Math Question

You forgot hammer weight and barrel length.
How does the barrel length affect the velocity. That is what has me confused. The example I sited has an 18" barrel doing ~85 fps more than my 23.6" barrel with about the same weight pellet. I did play with the hammer weight a little by adding a small slug under the hammer spring, which also compressed the spring about one turn of its free length when installed. At first, the slug was twice the length of what is now in there, but it was just wasting air. The one I have in there now gave almost the same velocity as the thicker slug, but I get more shots per charge down to the regulator pressure. The added "pulse" of air from the heavier weight and loaded hammer spring still didn't get me the increase in speed that I expected, just wasted air. So there must be some optimum hammer weight/spring force for a particular setup(?). The heavier slug added 45 grns to the hammer and the thinner one 28 grns. The hammer weighs 739 grns.

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