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OldVet · Jul 13, 2025

For me anyway accuracy is the adjustment. If my particular ammo pellet , or slug shoots more accurate at a lower setting I just go with that.

Emu · Jul 13, 2025

I have never heard of a PCP bottle need of help.

What eventually happen is am leak because material devasting....

I that would ever happen, just buy another bottle (as big as possible).

You like RATT? · Jul 13, 2025

I’ve seen a handful of reviews on this product, but most of these guys don’t own it and it’s just over the first few days. From what I’ve seen so far, it’s exactly what I’ve been looking for. Has anyone owned this for a few months now and what is your experience over time? What are your thoughts?

alejo · Jul 13, 2025

Melo said:
To adjust my PCP rifles, I've always followed the methodology discussed and recommended many times on this forum, and honestly, it's worked for me. Since it worked for me, today I was at the club explaining this methodology to a shooter, and together we got the rifle working properly. So far, so good. But another shooter who was listening came over and immediately told me I was completely wrong.

The rifle in question is an FX King .22 with a 600 mm barrel. In my explanations, we start with a regulator at 75 bar, with the macro in position 13.

18 gr JSB pellets, and proceed with 3 group shots at position 13, another 3 group shots at position 14, and continue in this manner until reaching position 23. What I'm looking for is the smallest or closest group at 50 yards. At the 21 macro setting, we achieved near-perfect accuracy. We then used the stopwatch and measured the velocity at setting 21, which was 940 fps; at setting 22, it was 947 fps; and at setting 23, it was 948 fps. It was slightly increased with micro-adjustment, and the velocity did not increase.

From this, I deduce that with the macro in position 21 and making some micro-adjustments, the deviation can be slightly adjusted. In short, I copied my King's settings and applied them to this other shooter's. The differences are that mine, with the same pellet, prefers 937 fps, while this other guy's prefers 941 fps. And from 250 to 100 bar, I got 115 shots.

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Well, I'm satisfied, yes, but this other shooter tells me I'm doing it very wrong, that I have a very low regulator and a soft hammer blow, that it's better to raise the regulator to 100/120 bar and have a stronger hammer, that I would get more shots, more consistency, that the regulator would work better, and I would recover faster. Honestly, I don't know if he's right, and I don't want to ruin my setup either, but I have a doubt. He's talking so confidently and he's getting me into trouble. Maybe he was just a conceited charlatan who wanted to brag about what he doesn't know.

Now I ask, which do you prefer? Would both settings work in theory, or which one is the correct one to achieve the desired FPS?

Low regulator and soft hammer.

High regulator and hard hammer.

HELLO.. if I’m not mistaken your rifle liner 600 is for slugs, let me explain, the twist rate on yours is 1:16, vs, king 500 liner is 1:24.
Which means 1:16 is faster spin for slugs, 1:24 lower spin for pellets. So for the reg setting I recommend you start in 100 for pellets
At #13, for pellets you don’t need a lot of speed i mean you shooting 18 grains , if you decide to use heavier pellet like 25 or higher
Increase you reg 5 bars increment and your macro wheel too, the fine tune with your micro adjustments.

Now Slugs its a little different, they need more speed . I have one king too 600 for slugs and I’m shooting zan 33 grain at 990 .
Just IMHO. BE SAFE

manabeknives · Jul 13, 2025

I may be wrong but i have not heard of hydrostatic testing for the bottles or tubes that go on an air rifle. I have had hydrostatic testing done on my big SCBA tank. If you are taking your tank to be filled by a scuba shop or a paintball store that can fill to 4500 psi, then they require that your tank is certified.
The water filter you speak of is an attachment for when you run a compressor to remove moisture from your fill. There are many compressors on the market. Best to do your homework before buying.
Air whips i have seen in 2 types .. a slow fill micro bore and normal whips. Micro bores leave less air in the hose, but is slower to fill a rifle. Conserves air.

Ratzy · Jul 13, 2025

RayZ said:
Hello all,

Brand new to this sport, just bought my first FAC air gun and I have a few questions for you guys.

From what I've been told, in almost every country high pressure air vessels have to be Hydrostatic tested very 5 years (or so) with a "total lifetime" use of somewhere around 15 years (or so) which I'm good with for safety, but what about airguns like say an AirArms S510 or any other air guns that dosen't have a removable high pressure air tank.

Or say something like a water removable device like a "Tuxing water seperator" that are also charged to 250+ bars, or even the air whips we use to fill the guns/tanks?...

I've oft times wondered about that. Our tanks require inspection but none of the supporting hardware does.

The tanks because they store significantly more energy than the supporting hardware. But if you ever have a hose let loose you would know just how much damage it could do.

But big filters like the Tuxing dual could store some high energy.

How you could test them without damaging them? Take them above their working pressure but below their original test pressure? Where would you get that done?

Then there are more than a few people that use aged out SCBA tanks. Haven't heard of any of them bursting.

So the inspection standards are probably excessive but not unreasonable.

CanMike · Jul 13, 2025

That’s a lot of REG creep. Especially in the short time of a magazine change. That can’t be right.

Mike

maxtrouble · Jul 13, 2025

DualMagMike said:
I wouldn't own them if they weren't

I wouldn't own them because they are.

JoePolanco · Jul 13, 2025

Having signed on with RTI to shoot for them in competition, I'm offering my .25 caliber competition Skout EPOCH for sale. This gun has taken me to the finals in several of the majors over the last two years and is NOT your ordinary EPOCH. This gun, like all of my guns, has been meticulously cared for and customized with the absolute best of everything available from Skout and their 3rd party suppliers. It is easily one of the most accurate guns currently being used in benchrest competition. The gun comes with a plethora of upgrades and extras and shoots lights out at 0-100 yards using a variety of pellet / speed combinations. This is all due to the amazing SUB MOA barrel with which it is equipped. The pictures show the gun and the parts that accompany. However, the Delta Striker 5-50X56 shown in the pictures is NOT included in the $1850 price. If you're interested in the scope I can offer it at a deep discount.

If you would like more information on the gun or have questions, feel free to contact me via text at (513)348-0014.
$1850 shipped anywhere in the continental US.
Venmo, personal check, MO (I no longer accept Paypal)

* all targets pictured were shot at 100 yds.

Skout Epoch ser. # 00037
.25 caliber
SUB MOA competition bull barrel
2 580cc bottles (1 spare)
Skout Arca Rail Extension
Customized grip covers with charging port
2 Barrel tensioning accessory sleeve (1 spare)
3rd party vertical foregrip
3rd party bottle regulator
3 bottle gauges (2 analog, 1 digital)
2 Skout moderators (1 spare)
1 Donny FL ½ 20 UNF adapter (use any ½ 20 moderator)
1 Skout tool and spares kit
1 Plano hardshell case
4 .25 caliber Skout magazines (2 new in box)
2 .25 caliber Manuloader magazines
2 Stud Fast Loader magazine trays
1 Stud Shake Loader tray
1 pair of unaltered (original) grip covers
3 probes (various iterations - Skout prototypes)
1 spare battery
1 original bottle adapter
1 spare Skout HP regulator
2 Skout barrel liner screws (not used on the SUB MOA)

Epoch SubMOA 100yd AEA & JTS 33 gr Aug 23rd 2024.jpg

Skout Epoch 25 at 932fps at 100 yds .jpg

jamdon · Jul 13, 2025

Up for sale are three scope levels. Two Wheeler foldable rail mount levels and one 30mm LoneStar scope level. All three for $28.00 shipped in CONUS. PayPal add 3.75% or Zelle. Please PM me with any questions.

gbmarcht · Jul 13, 2025

rut said:
I have the GX E L3 dual battery compressor. This thing works great. I use it for direct fill to my BRK Ghost. Really good unit. I also have their new filter that I run with it. Both the compressor and the filter are outstanding.

Agreed, I have the same and works perfectly

JackHughs · Jul 13, 2025

Helmet said:
Hi.
Can anyone tell me what kind of pre-applied threadlocker e.g. Traxxas uses on their screws? That holds tight but doesn't lock up completely, and stays flexible and makes adjustments possible over time? It doesn't look like LocTite supplies any of this type of threadlocker, but clearly someone does. Anyone know or have any suggestions?

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I'm showing my age but beeswax does a great job of preventing fasteners from vibrating loose while allowing for manual adjustment.

JackHughs

crowski · Jul 13, 2025

Got the tractor out and got drenched twice. Switched to shooting on the range with 2 of 3 that were kidnapped. HW95 .177 to start and a good shooter. Glad to be home.

This next gun is as promising as they get. Another hostage, a HW97kt .20 right from first shot was dead on. Talk about dream machine.

Dissected a can at 35 yds. I’m liking this gun. Crow

jamdon · Jul 13, 2025

Up for sale are three (3) directional wind flags and one Graham Uppy-Downy flag. The Uppy/Downy flag identifies up drafts and downdraft winds found at ranges with baffles, berms, barriers, trees, gullies or swirling wind. The extended height of the stands with the flags is approximately 48”. All are in very good condition. I’m offering the lot for $85.00 delivered in CONUS. Payment by PayPal + 3.75% or Zelle. PM me with any questions.

cavedweller · Jul 13, 2025

RayZ said:
Hello all,

Brand new to this sport, just bought my first FAC air gun and I have a few questions for you guys.

From what I've been told, in almost every country high pressure air vessels have to be Hydrostatic tested very 5 years (or so) with a "total lifetime" use of somewhere around 15 years (or so) which I'm good with for safety, but what about airguns like say an AirArms S510 or any other air guns that dosen't have a removable high pressure air tank.

Or say something like a water removable device like a "Tuxing water seperator" that are also charged to 250+ bars, or even the air whips we use to fill the guns/tanks?...

You’re going to get a wild variety of inputs but few will be based on the manufacturer recommendations or local / federal / international regulations.
I personally follow the rules but I also completely service my PCP’s every 3 years - period! I enjoy them so much that I consider it a cost of my hobby.

6gun · Jul 13, 2025

beercanshot said:
I have owned my FX M3 for about 2.5 years with no problems. Never touched any of the settings. Went shooting the other day and when I filled up bottle, my #1 regulator pressure was the same as bottle pressure. Shortly after that, my #2 regulator started reading around 220 BAR. Called UTAH A/G, very helpful, and decided to bypass #1 reg and install a new generation second regulator (same as is on M4). Ill keep the forum posted about results.

I have an early m3, my amp regs started to let go with reg 2 creeping 12-15 bar and then my 1st stage went rogue and maxed out the guage.

I replaced the delrin pistons and it worked for a while and then they crept too.

I bought a huma high pressure for 2nd reg and it was too slow of a refresh at the bottom of its capability, I realized I can't be doing the high psi South African stuff for my needs and fixed the Bellville stack for a lower range.

Final iteration, huma bottle reg (absolutely fantastic at 175 bar) huma 2nd reg is at 150 bar. Creep isn't an issue anymore and I've finally gotten my m3 to be stable and consistent at essentially 2 power settings 55 fpe and 75 fpe in 22. I just went and looked and the plenum is where it was at on a digital guage when I put it away a month ago.

My other fx (dreamline) has 1 amp reg at 150 bar and it's been great so far. When it goes I will be doing another huma.

manabeknives · Jul 13, 2025

Timo said:
Be great if the hp& LP regs had numbered/click adjustment, would make experimenting and returning to original settings a lot easier.
Plus smooth over cap so you feel that you haven't messed it when carrying or supporting gun in hand.

Hi Timo,
You can get the Power boost kit which has the low profile caps.
When you are at a tune you like. Take a measurement when the caps are on the regulators from the top of the cap to the frame of the rife with a caliper. You can use this as a reference for your settings
Mike

6gun · Jul 13, 2025

steve123 said:
Someone more knowledgeable with likely chime in but...

Just having that DRS PRO chassis is something that is a great benefit IMHO.

I'm imagining those top competitors have highly modified guns though so everything is optimized for these games. Just enough air and fps to finish one stage to compete at the highest level.

I can't remember which one, PRS or NRL, but one of these organizations prevented 25 cal slugs above 49 grains being used so that left the Altaros 22 cal 40gr King as a top pick because of the .21 G1 BC.

I'd personally choose the Altaros 60gr 25cal/.245 G1 BC if I had a choice for these games because I'm familiar with it's capabilities.

Whats the longest shot typically and how small in those games? Just for my own bc curiosity

MP44 · Jul 13, 2025

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SilentSquirrel · Jul 13, 2025

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JoePolanco · Jul 13, 2025

greenbeans said:
Really nice targets you got there!! What ES/SD are you getting? Mine is a .22 600mm and it shoots amazing! The only thing I don’t seem to get a handle on is the spread… ES 15-20 and SD 3-4 for me, would really like to get that tighter… dwell is also set fairly tight…

In order to achieve very low SD and ES you need to be very meticulous in your tuning approach. While the Mora is generally an extremely easy gun to tune, "fine" tuning will require some time and work. Currently during testing, I'm seeing 2-3 SD and as much as 14 ES depending on the speed and the pellet I'm shooting. However, for serious practice and competition, I will always return to the AEA 29.5 grain Center Punch pellets at 970-975 fps because that is where I get my best overall results. As a starting point for that tune I know exactly the 2nd reg pressure (100 bar) needs to be and the approximate position for the dwell adjuster (on my gun that's six holes from closed). However, because I'm using a 700mm barrel, your settings will be different(most likely a few bar higher on the reg), if only slightly.

Once I have my gross starting point, in order get my SD and ES minimized I begin bumping (and I do mean barely moving) the regulator and adjusting the dwell, in equally small increments, to offset the direction (increasing/decreasing) that I moved the regulator. What I'm doing is trying to find that extremely small balance point that gives the pellet an initial SLAP (shortest possible burst) of air with NO trailing air. This balancing point can take a while to locate. I requires going back and forth until you hit pay dirt. Now, the question is, is this REALLY necessary? Well, IMO, that depends on what you're doing. For ME, as a benchrest shooter, the answer is yes, because consistency is everything when dealing in millimeters at 50 to 100 yards. Although a 10 fps spread barely registers on my POI, barely isn't good enough. When I'm POA is 3 o'clock the ten ring, 3 millimeters can be the difference of an entire point. For a hunter, or a plinker or a long range shooter who have much larger diameters to their target areas, there's little or no point at all in going through all those machinations. Form should always follow function.

cavedweller · Jul 13, 2025

This Airgun needs no introduction and is quite frankly legendary for a good reason.
Yesterday on my first competition with my Thomas carbine, I outshot ALL my previous 3 years of field target matches with my highest percentage of kills.

Gerry52 · Jul 13, 2025

.25 is more forgiving when hunting for sure & bucks the wind better. Probably what I'd use for competition too (if I did that).

RayZ · Jul 13, 2025

Hello all,

Brand new to this sport, just bought my first FAC air gun and I have a few questions for you guys.

From what I've been told, in almost every country high pressure air vessels have to be Hydrostatic tested very 5 years (or so) with a "total lifetime" use of somewhere around 15 years (or so) which I'm good with for safety, but what about airguns like say an AirArms S510 or any other air guns that dosen't have a removable high pressure air tank.

Or say something like a water removable device like a "Tuxing water seperator" that are also charged to 250+ bars, or even the air whips we use to fill the guns/tanks?...

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