The scientist also had a NON anodized inside of that filter in contact with the sieve..

karl_h said:

Not wrong at all, check the real science from manufacturer's of breathing air compressors and filters. Check the labs that certify breathing air, research a little and don't be stupid. It is absolutely scientifically documented.

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100% of my actual hands on experience says corrosion is not present.
Believe whatever you want...

EPG said:

Daystate added that “feature” - can’t decock - to the Wolverine R and Wolverine R HP around 2020.

I believe Earlier Wolverine Rs were able to be decocked.

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Anyone know how to reverse this?

Ok just looked it up on Daystate's database. It was a 2022 model.

I missed ordering one Monday because I was away from home and thought I could wait until later in the day. I don't think it will increase power in my U. S. spec guns but the price is not much more than just buying another hammer spring and valve. I want those parts so I would like to give it a try.

I have not measured the passages in my P35-22 or P35-177. I haven't even opened up the P35-22. All original except for hammer spring and trigger settings (and a printed moderator replacing the baffles). But after figuring out my P35-25 prefers 34 grain JSBs I wanted to speed them up. With the regulator about as high as it can go and the hammer still open the valve I was getting about 715 fps. The passage from the valve to the transfer port, the transfer port, and the barrel port were all about 75% of the bore size. I increased them all to about 85% and gained 15-20 fps. Adding an aftermarket external plenum got me about 45 fps. Velocity is also temperature dependent and I have achieved a little over 800 fps with these heavy pellets but 790 fps or so is more typical. I am not in a rush but when I have an extra valve or two, I will reduce the diameter of one and see what that does. It show flow more, others report success, but I may also have to shorten the valve poppet to keep it projecting towards the hammer the same distance - in other words it is not super easy but probably not really very hard either. None of these changes is really necessary in my opinion but I like figuring out what works and how to do the changes.

Just getting a bullshark would be a lot simpler. The extra 40mm of barrel would give a similar velocity gain as the bigger plenum. A bullshark with an added plenum should easily make 50 fpe if the gun likes 34 grain pellets. That's more power than squirrels and rabbits need but makes the gun usable for a little bigger animals with brain shots.

I think mine is newer than that year range. Trying to find the purchase paper work, but that doesn't say how long the gun was in inventory before I bought it,

EPG said:

Daystate added that “feature” - can’t decock - to the Wolverine R and Wolverine R HP around 2020.

I believe Earlier Wolverine Rs were able to be decocked.

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Pfddi said:

I have a Wolverine R .177 in the laminate stock and I can de-cock it. I shoot 10.34g FXs in it and it is a laser with the same shot count as the folks above say. It's my wife's favorite gun! I probably have more back yard pests with it than any gun I have. It is super quite with the moderator on it. I put it on a tripod with a Death Grip so not too much handling required other than carrying it out!

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Daystate added that “feature” - can’t decock - to the Wolverine R and Wolverine R HP around 2020.

I believe Earlier Wolverine Rs were able to be decocked.

montana1 said:

I ordered huma regulator with 12cc plenum hope i can do 850fpd on 21/23 slugs

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i'm gonna be honest, I dont think so. at 143b i'm shooting a p35x with a 65cc plenum at 865 maxed out it can peak at 880-885 with 21 hp slugs if i bring it up to 150b. Maybe it will, you can only find out by trying.
you can always shoot 17-19 gr slugs. When i used to shoot slugs from a notos i learned that a 17gr slug with a bc of .07 shot at 791fps quickly overtakes the pellet shot at 860 in energy and velocity by 25 30 yards and holds that energy WAY longer than you'd think. Speed isn't everything

igolfat8 said:

Hey thanks Mike. My hold offs were near or past the box line. Really scary holding out there in la la land, in hopes of hitting a bull but it worked … most of the time. My vertical impacts were pretty consistent but horizontal hold offs were OUT there.

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Sounds like the kind of conditions I would have rather stayed home and cleaned the toilet. Haha

I am thinking modifying the probe with a drilled and tapped hole for a large headed screw or screw an washer on the flat part of the probe, opposite of the foster connection.. Install the probe and screw it so the probe stays installed..

nervoustrig said:

Same thought I had. My guess is it has less to do with 2500 vs 3500 grit and more to do with the procedure used.

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Something that preferentially sanded down the lands, regardless of grit size. Would not happen with a "hard" lap cast of lead.

I have a Wolverine R .177 in the laminate stock and I can de-cock it. I shoot 10.34g FXs in it and it is a laser with the same shot count as the folks above say. It's my wife's favorite gun! I probably have more back yard pests with it than any gun I have. It is super quite with the moderator on it. I put it on a tripod with a Death Grip so not too much handling required other than carrying it out!

Any updates on this pistol?

As you may have guessed, Hatsan.com has been helpful. Some burring on a bolt hole in the receiver damaged this part as I popped to out to replace an input seal. Thanks a lot guys, hoping for a used part I guess

RabbitofCaerbannog said:

designed as for the non UK version as well as upgrade to FAC in uk.

i have this in my p35. Works perfect. Same exact power as prior to install. p15,35,35x use same valve housing, spring and stem/seal

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I ordered huma regulator with 12cc plenum hope i can do 850fpd on 21/23 slugs

Neu said:

Man I missed the boat on those hopefully he has some more at that price. Those are an absolute steal at $200. Or something pops up in the classifieds here.

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same, id like another one again, bought one and sold it and wished I hadn't.

Arzrover said:

I'm with you on that question ...
In my view, the Red Wolf and Air Wolf have the highest efficiency, the Harper valve equipped 177 and lower powered 22s are next, then the older valves, THEN the Ghost/Delta valves. It seems that DS are using a Ghost valve or at least based on it on the Blackwolf, but I've not had one in hand. Even in the Delta, (no hammer bounce issue) the efficiency is unimpressive but the valve brings other things to the table.
This assumes that the Harper is adjusted properly, which is often not the case...

Interesting that you want to put a Harper in your 25 as this is DEFINITELY where they don't shine. I would think finding a spring of the right size that you can cut for no preload would be easier and more appropriate ...
In my experience , much above 30 ft lb the Harper starts to lose it's advantage.
Bob

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Interesting - perhaps I’ll stick with the stock hammer in my Renegade HP…

Factory unregulated tune it was a beast 895 to 932 to 895 over 30 shots with 34g.

I installed a lighter hammer spring and got a nice unregulated string over 40+ shots - power peaking about 165-170 bar.

Then I installed a Huma reg (still using my lighter spring) and dialed it at say 162 bar and it shoots 25.4g JSB at 925-930; 30g JTS at 880 and 34g JSB at 840… Damn happy with that. 1st spring I tried (sometimes you get lucky, lol), but I have a lot of experience on other Daystates and a small mountain of 18mm springs of various wire thicknesses and lengths.

My .25 rifle has a damn accurate barrel, the electronic trigger on the Renegade is excellent for my target work, but even with the lighter hammer spring I can feel some harshness in the shot cycle from the hammer strike…. this is what I thought I could improve with the slingshot hammer.

I’ve even thought about swapping the barrel and probe on my .25 Renegade HP and .22 Wolverine R HP. This would put the .22 on the Renegade with the smaller air cylinder and the .25 on the Wolverine which now has a 580cc bottle. I’d still have the same thought of putting a SSH in the Wolverine if converted to .25.

As I’m just target shooting, I don’t need/want high power to punch paper, but I do like the HP Daystate barrels as they are polygonal and seem to shoot a variety of pellet weights well.

One other feature that draws me to the SSH is the adjustable length of throw to tweak velocity, rather than shimming the hammer spring (I’ve got 1mm and .5mm washers that fit perfectly on my spring “top hat” guides that allow very precise shimming).

Any thoughts on either what to expect from using a SSH on .25 Renegade or even thoughts on swapping calibers across Wolfie and Renegade?

-Ed

-Ed

Propane torch and a rod that fits in the probe hole... Lock the tube in a vise, heat till smoking. insert rod and twist..

Rashadb said:

New to this looking to sale a challenger pro

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there are rules you had to read and rules you can find on how this is done.