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is that Michael

I have an older .22 smaller 15mm breech also and CARM makes them (I have one) but don't know if they make a 9mm version.....might want contact them....

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I built a bullet trap (45 degree back piece ) modeled after the metal ones . deflecting the pellet down into a sand pit . I should add that my Absolut highest power ( more than ever needed ) is 16 FPE .

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My testing is done.
Overall quietest in my test was: 0db 160, Sumo, and Hugget snipe. Results were close enough that I'd call it tie between these 3.
The loudest was: Impulse 1350.

1st: 0db 160, Sumo, Snipe
2nd: Hugget Astille, Brocock and Tatsu tied
3rd: 0db 110 30 cal? (has 3***)
4th: 0db 110 .22? (has 1*)
5th: Impulse 1350

The 2 smaller 0db's were a bit of a surprise as I assumed the smaller of the 2 calibers would have been quieter.

The Impulse has been disappointing to me. I could always tell it was going to be the loudest when shooting.

I realize that results will vary with so many different variables. These are just my personal testing results with one particular gun and setup.

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zerochance said:

Does anyone know if Crosman used the “same” press/die from the two left American made tins? I’m hoping the same press/die but different printing on the American tins.

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I have shot nearly 9,000 CPHP 14.3 gr .22 in the last (3) years, but our shooting is onto metallic silhouettes, at distances to 160 meters, typically with significant wind. Not the best to evaluate pellets. I also push them near to 1,000 FPS, ditto on accuracy.

Until recently, the pellets were of the center type, shifting to the left type, and I just recieved (4) tin of the right type. Mine are Hollow Point with the label in place of the "Ultra Magnum" in the photo.

I didn't find significant difference between center and left, even when sorting by weight. but haven't started to sort the right hand type. I will report on that ASAP.

I have noticed that the coating/surface shine appears to be different between the types, but have not tried to evaluate differences in hardness/alloy.

Perhaps someone has looked into that?

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.20calguy said:

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unfortunately the humor is lost "on me" for this particular "joke", as i can be slow on the uptake sometimes.

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There's the nuance of the efficiency of the air charge on a piston of a larger size ( pellet being the piston).


In practice between my 2 discos projectile weights are different, velocity is different, energy is equal and shot counts were equal.

I've leaned towards viewing air guns as fpe. My impact used to just shoot 50 fpe no matter the projectile weight. Velocity would just vary with projectile weight, no tune change

I bought a tin of Spanish made CPHPs at a local Walmart a month or so ago for $8. Seems like a reasonable price to me. They did not shoot as accurately as a couple old partial tins of American made Crosman domed, however. As a possible explanation of why I looked at weight and head size. There was a lot more head size variability in the Spanish made CPHP. I mostly shoot targets and CPHP are not good for targets in my guns but they are "minute of squirrel head" accurate.

Ranchibi said:

I am wondering if there is a Main Office close enough for you to drive to and speak to a high end management person face to face.....

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Mike - I agree. It’s worth a shot. Don’t give up.

You have a tracking number and someone in Fed-Ex created a label.

AirNGasman said:

See the attachment. It also includes accuracy testing results, because "our amps go to 11".

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Hi guys, as I wrote above - I added a coolant flow indicator to the system, which also measures the coolant outlet temperature. I also solved the placement of the pressure cylinder. Now it is at the highest point of the entire system.

Twiceshy said:

Does anyone have or have had the opportunity to use one of these ? The Cabela's portable table, $79.99. Thanks for your feedback !

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It depends on what you're looking for. If you would be satisfied shooting off of a plastic, folding table that you would find at almost any church social go for it. The only advantage the cabellas table has is the cut out for you to sit in.
Personally, I would go to Lowe's and buy a 2ft x 4ft folding table for around $50.00.

jps2486 said:

Yep, just like BSA, Webley, Diana, and others. They made the same old, same old, year after year and now they are gone. Air Arms and Weihrauch may be next. Even though they make the best quality rifles., they are always the same. Why should anyone buy another?

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BSA is still around.
Under newish ownership.
R12 series are fine rifles.
Typical british gorgeous wood stocks