New slugs ATP King .22 40gr and .25 slugs for Huben and Leshiy

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I would like to officially introduce our new .22 ATP King 40gr Slugs and also the new .254 slugs which work very well in Huben K1 and Edgun Leshiy.

I will start with ATP King 40gr .22 which have BC G1 0.21 (at MV 280 m/s - 920 fps ) and we produce them in 5.52 mm ( .217 ) and in diameter 5.50 mm ( .216 ).
Work well in barrel FX Superior Heavy twist 1/16 or Lothar Walther, CZ and others barrels. For FX and LW without choke, we recommend 5.52 mm (.217). For LW with choke we recommend 5.50 mm (.216 ) .
I can confidently to say that ATP King are our most precise and most versatile slugs in the .22 caliber.

Experience of a shooter from Estonia (FX crown superioer heavy):
Distance 100m :Strong wind
Distance 200m :


shooter from Saudi Arabia:
FX M3
windy day, (about 25 km/h)
Using ATP King 40gr
Speed was 990 fps
Distance 108 meters
Setting:
I used the the 8.5 hammer
Reg pressure 165
Power block
With the 800mm barrel superior heavy
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Our video at 711 yards with the ATP King 40gr:

More information can be found on oure webside: https://www.militaryairgun.com/domu/185-atp-king-552mm-22.html



.25 ATP Slugs for Huben K1 is 50gr , Length - 10.8 mm 0.43", BC G1 0.17 (or BC 0.21 for ATP Smooth ), diameter - 6.45 mm .254 . Recommended muzzle velocity from our users 300 m/s 980 fps

Oure customer used his Huben K1 and this .25 ATP slugs at MV 300m/s on hunting wild boars weighing up to 100 kg:
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More about these .25 slugs on our website: https://www.militaryairgun.com/97-huben
The .22 slugs variant for Huben is also very popular, especially in Germany.

We will gradually add more videos for ATP King, especially for the more classic distances of 100-200-300 meters.

If you are looking for a universal slug for short, medium or long distances, I really recommend trying it, because our results and the results of our customers are excellent. They also work very well in a wide range of muzzle velocities 220 - 310 m/s ( 720 - 1000 fps).

We currently recommend these slugs as the main slugs for our M24 airgun.
 
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we are not currently planning to do HP. As we mentioned above, our slugs made of practically pure lead are able to hunt even 100 kg of wild boar. The given user also tested classic HP slugs and his unequivocal opinion was that our ATPs are better for his hunting purposes.
Other video from our customer with a Altaros M24 who was testing the expansion and length of the penetration channel of our ATP slugs vs FX hybrid:
I don't think that a slightly wider channel, but a significantly shorter one, would be better than the one made by ATP slugs.
Maybe for birds, but if I compare the hardness of hybrid or NSA, compared to ATP, it is an extremely fundamental difference. For example, NSA slugs are many times harder, which is not good for impact deformation.
Another user using the M24 rifle and ATP 31g (70J) he has already caught more than 60 pcs nutria (in his country it is harmful) and the heaviest was over 10 kg. In most cases they stayed in place after the hits.
 
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Altaros said:
I would like to officially introduce our new .22 ATP King 40gr Slugs and also the new .254 slugs which work very well in Huben K1 and Edgun Leshiy.

I will start with ATP King 40gr .22 which have BC G1 0.21 (at MV 280 m/s - 920 fps ) and we produce them in 5.52 mm ( .217 ) and in diameter 5.50 mm ( .216 ).
Work well in barrel FX Superior Heavy twist 1/16 or Lothar Walther, CZ and others barrels. For FX and LW without choke, we recommend 5.52 mm (.217). For LW with choke we recommend 5.50 mm (.216 ) .
I can confidently to say that ATP King are our most precise and most versatile slugs in the .22 caliber.

Experience of a shooter from Estonia (FX crown superioer heavy):
Distance 100m :Strong wind
Distance 200m :


shooter from Saudi Arabia:
FX M3
windy day, (about 25 km/h)
Using ATP King 40gr
Speed was 990 fps
Distance 108 meters
Setting:
I used the the 8.5 hammer
Reg pressure 165
Power block
With the 800mm barrel superior heavy
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Our video at 711 yards with the ATP King 40gr:

More information can be found on oure webside: https://www.militaryairgun.com/domu/185-atp-king-552mm-22.html



.25 ATP Slugs for Huben K1 is 50gr , Length - 10.8 mm 0.43", BC G1 0.17 (or BC 0.21 for ATP Smooth ), diameter - 6.45 mm .254 . Recommended muzzle velocity from our users 300 m/s 980 fps

Oure customer used his Huben K1 and this .25 ATP slugs at MV 300m/s on hunting wild boars weighing up to 100 kg:
View attachment 297916

More about these .25 slugs on our website: https://www.militaryairgun.com/97-huben
The .22 slugs variant for Huben is also very popular, especially in Germany.

We will gradually add more videos for ATP King, especially for the more classic distances of 100-200-300 meters.

If you are looking for a universal slug for short, medium or long distances, I really recommend trying it, because our results and the results of our customers are excellent. They also work very well in a wide range of muzzle velocities 220 - 310 m/s ( 720 - 1000 fps).

We currently recommend these slugs as the main slugs for our M24 airgun.
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Too bad Altaros slugs were not included in the latest HAM series of tests regarding slugs...
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yes, it's too bad but I don't think they would have invited us to the next test, as we clearly objected to the barrel used in the first BC test and demanded that the results not be published, as they are not objective, even though we had the best BC of all the tested slugs.

It is not possible to use the old FX barrel for pellets with a non-standard twist for oure slugs, which are designed for the standard airgun twist used for decades, and that is the twist about 1:17.
For the old FX smoott twist barrels, the oure slugs was unstable (you can hear it whistling in flight) and therefore had significantly more drag than when fired from a proper barrel with proper stability. Use of such an inappropriate barrel then has consequencesreduces to reduction BC a lot.
We clearly wrote that we want a test from the barrel like Lothar Walther (twist 1:17.7), CZ similar twist or FX superior heavy (twist 1:16), all of which have a suitable twist for stabilizing our slugs.

If someone wants to do an objective test, here is an example of how to do it properly objectively, everything only in real time and everyone can calculate the BC for both G1 and G7 or GA:

I hope that one day Brian Litz from Applient ballistics, who is the top in the world of ballistics, will do a test of all the main airgun slugs. Then everyone will know what the real results are and all will know that they were done correctly.
Personally, I wouldn't have a problem doing this test, but as a slug manufacturer it will be marked as a conflict of interest or fraud, so at most I will make a similar video only with other calibers.

We still offer HAM the opportunity to test our slugs, but we want to have the option to refuse if a suitable barrel is not used (a suitable barrel is practically any airgun barrel, except the FX barrel intended for pellets).
 
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I have watched these videos from you guys for a while now. The distance shots at dirt or shotgunning a target is not a demonstration for me personally of their value. I think you should send out some product to reviewers and be okay with the results, irregardless of your preferred barrel...in the end consumers end up using slugs in a wide variety of barrels and you have to be okay with your product performing differently with different people and platforms. If it is good it will do well. If not, then people will know and vote with their wallet. I think 50yrd and 100yrd shots on standardized targets would be more informative as well, at least more so than shotgunning metal in the distance.

NSA slugs have been around for a long time, and they have proven themselves time and again for me personally as well as others. I think if you want to build more confidence in your product, give it to some professionals to review with no strings attached. Heck, maybe one of us will have to buy it and test it with other slugs for ourselves....
 
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one thing I’ve noticed with the FUX branded Power Plugs is the groups will actually tighten up the further you go. I don’t know if it’s a characteristic of the alien technology barrel or just the nutation settling down. View attachment 303911
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Amazing. I'd like to try those Power Plugs in the choked barrel of my PCP air rifle. Can I order direct from said aliens? Will they take my CC # via radio telescope?
 
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AtlasAirguns said:
I have watched these videos from you guys for a while now. The distance shots at dirt or shotgunning a target is not a demonstration for me personally of their value. I think you should send out some product to reviewers and be okay with the results, irregardless of your preferred barrel...in the end consumers end up using slugs in a wide variety of barrels and you have to be okay with your product performing differently with different people and platforms. If it is good it will do well. If not, then people will know and vote with their wallet. I think 50yrd and 100yrd shots on standardized targets would be more informative as well, at least more so than shotgunning metal in the distance.

NSA slugs have been around for a long time, and they have proven themselves time and again for me personally as well as others. I think if you want to build more confidence in your product, give it to some professionals to review with no strings attached. Heck, maybe one of us will have to buy it and test it with other slugs for ourselves....
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On the website we clearly write for each type of slug for which barrel it is suitable.
It's like selling car tires of one size and having them sent for a test where they are fitted with completely different rims and strangely it won't work at all, is it a functional correct test? No, it's just confusing people.

50 and 100m is a common distance for an airgun today, which can be handled by practically all slugs, and the accuracy depends on how the given slug sits with the given barrel. If the wind is not too strong, it will not significantly affect the target.
from +200m, the ballistic coefficient and the consistency of the muzzle velocity are essential and here you can see the fundamental differences between slugs.

Oure problem is simple. For the time being, we produce many times less than, for example, NSA and we have no distributor, therefore the number of shooters used oure slugs is many times smaller and thus the number of people who could try our slugs and an even smaller number of people who make a video or write a review. but those people are and we always encourage them to write information publicly or make similar videos like these from the shooter from Estonia at firs post. This is a normal distance and a normal target.

here I share shooters from Germany with our M24 airgun and ATP slugs. This is his new video for 100 and 150m :
 
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I have watched these videos from you guys for a while now. The distance shots at dirt or shotgunning a target is not a demonstration for me personally of their value. I think you should send out some product to reviewers and be okay with the results, irregardless of your preferred barrel...in the end consumers end up using slugs in a wide variety of barrels and you have to be okay with your product performing differently with different people and platforms. If it is good it will do well. If not, then people will know and vote with their wallet. I think 50yrd and 100yrd shots on standardized targets would be more informative as well, at least more so than shotgunning metal in the distance.

NSA slugs have been around for a long time, and they have proven themselves time and again for me personally as well as others. I think if you want to build more confidence in your product, give it to some professionals to review with no strings attached. Heck, maybe one of us will have to buy it and test it with other slugs for ourselves....
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Just mentioning that "ANY" slug being shot in a barrel not having the correct range of twist rate for proper stabilization, and also just as erringly not the correct groove diameter (projectile usually .005-.001 over GD), cannot be expected to perform to its top potential as far as precision, or BC. Therefore any testing NOT done according to the manufacturers "directions" is doomed from the get go and therefore quite invalid.

But yes, have at it within the recommended parameters. And yes, results on paper and steel at as many distances as is feasible.

I'm not a "professional" but I am in a unique position in life, and the area where I live, to do some testing if the OP would like. I'm also no longer sponsored, or belong to any teams, or have any bias.
The NSA 29gr and 34gr have done well in the barrel of my Uragan 25 cal which would be where I'd start. I can source a 25 cal barrel for my Redwolf as well.
 
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When have you seen Nielsen ammo come to this forum n try to dumb us with his slugs..making claims of what they do or don't do, we buy them because the work in some of our guns n those who not work .. they work in other members guns.. and I say dumb us because how many members have 800y + to use.. they are trying to sell a 1000y slugs with the most horrible recorded video on you tube. Every one that tries to make slugs now are experts in ballistics n twist rate.. the older you get in this hobby the harder it it to sell me Dreams.. go out there make real groups at 200 n 300 n 400y with good camera equipment.. don't tell me you can't because if some non sponsored you tubers could do them I'm sure altaros could bump his game up on the recording arena.. n stop making those crapy video's..
 
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Well, that's how the world goes, isn't it?
But those who buy slugs based on how they work in someone else's barrel would buy or ask what works in this gun or this barrel anyway. Here too, there are numerous threads asking which slug would work in this gun or would this and that slug in this combo.

It has already been established that there are differences (or might be) in those guns and barrels even though they come from the same manufacturer. So, basically, if you don't test yourself what works in which barrel and at what diameter, you are relying on other people's information and it can be disappointing... just my 0,2€. ...and sorry my bad English it's not my native language.
 
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Well, that's how the world goes, isn't it?
But those who buy slugs based on how they work in someone else's barrel would buy or ask what works in this gun or this barrel anyway. Here too, there are numerous threads asking which slug would work in this gun or would this and that slug in this combo.

It has already been established that there are differences (or might be) in those guns and barrels even though they come from the same manufacturer. So, basically, if you don't test yourself what works in which barrel and at what diameter, you are relying on other people's information and it can be disappointing... just my 0,2€. ...and sorry my bad English it's not my native language.
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Othe people test of slugs on the same platform will give you a general idea, a point to start looking of what could work in your gun it will narrow your shoices unless you really have a lot of time n money to waste..n just purchase every slugs model n test your self.. a example is is well known that fx work better with .217 or .218 size slugs so why in the world you will choose to buy .216 first.. especially when not every manufacturer makes samples..
 
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