WARP .22 who has one?

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Anyone have one? Tossing the idea around getting one and tuning to ~30-35 ft lbs for 18.1gr JSBs for a compact easily transportable hunting/pesting rig 20-50yrds. Would like to know how quiet it is with the shroud fully extended with all baffles inserted, as in is it MRod quiet? Critters would be mostly grey & red squirrels, chipmunks, starlings and an occasional rabbit. I already have a .25 Daystate Air Wolf MCT Tactical with Huggett, so looking at .22 for higher shot count and stealth compared to .25. Thanks.
 
Thanks for the info TimTebow. It's a little more $$ than the other guns on my short list (Mutant Standard & Shorty, Brocock Compatto) but would love to have a WARP as it's made in the USA.

Nice to see it has the power and adjustability to take small pests all the way up to boar sized game in .22 while being super quiet. 

 
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I'll give some input here as I owned a WAR Flex .30, and the designs are pretty similar....

Ergonomics - Accepts AR grip/stock, so you can customize if you have a preference

Power - by just turning one screw, you can dial the power up or down pretty significantly. For example, TimTebow is running his at about 29fpe, and I bet it can go lower than that. Or, you can be like Manny, and be flinging the heavy .22 pellets (27 gr) at 880 fps and put out almost 50 fpe. However, it's def gonna be louder at that point. All by turning the HST.

Caliber changes - you can have a 22, 25, or 30 with one gun. Takes about 5 min to swap barrels. I think new barrels are about $200ish each.

Trigger - it has a Timney trigger, which are awesome. Very well known in the firearm world. My flex only had single stage, but it broke like glass. I can only imagine the two-stage is that much better.

Build quality - built like a tank. For lack of a better analogy, it feels like a real gun. I've handled multiple other high end airguns that feel just kinda flimsy and frail in comparison.

Customer support - you can literally call and text Travis. Super friendly & helpful!

Things I didn't care for:

-Cocking mechanism. I really, really, really wish this was a biathlon style side lever. It is kinda cumbersome to cock, and you do have to ensure you don't short cycle the bolt.

-Magazine: the .22 is a Marauder magazine. The larger calibers are modified Marauder magazines. I have always felt the Marauder magazine to feel kinda cheapish and fragile. Wish it had a better magazine system, especially at the guns price point. However, FX & Theoben have very similar style. Guess its a personal preference.

-Sound control - in regards to the Flex only as I don't have the WARP....It would have been nice to see an incorporated shroud & ldc, instead of just an ldc. Probably could significantly decrease the sound. But then again, I'm not an engineer and don't know if it was feasible, and I'm also one of those people who want their guns whisper quiet.

Don't know if this helps you at all or not. Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions.

 
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txaggie929I'll give some input here as I owned a WAR Flex .30, and the designs are pretty similar... Ergonomics - Accepts AR grip/stock, so you can customize if you have a preference
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I'm quite familiar with the AR platform and like that I can use the stock and grip of my choosing.
Power - by just turning one screw, you can dial the power up or down pretty significantly. For example, TimTebow is running his at about 29fpe, and I bet it can go lower than that. Or, you can be like Manny, and be flinging the heavy .22 pellets (27 gr) at 880 fps and put out almost 50 fpe. However, it's def gonna be louder at that point. All by turning the HST.
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The ease and range of adjustability is very attractive. Nice to know I can dial it in for stealthy pesting squirrels, chipmunks, starlings in the yard but could crank it up if needed for larger game (raccoons, etc). 
Caliber changes - you can have a 22, 25, or 30 with one gun. Takes about 5 min to swap barrels. I think new barrels are about $200ish each.
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I have .22 and .25 covered already but the ability to give .30 a try with a barrel swap with choice of lengths is attractive.

Trigger - it has a Timney trigger, which are awesome. Very well known in the firearm world. My flex only had single stage, but it broke like glass. I can only imagine the two-stage is that much better.
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The 2 stage electronic trigger on my Air Wolf MCT has me spoiled, it's hard to go back to a mediocre trigger.

Build quality - built like a tank. For lack of a better analogy, it feels like a real gun. I've handled multiple other high end airguns that feel just kinda flimsy and frail in comparison.
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Good to hear.

Customer support - you can literally call and text Travis. Super friendly & helpful!
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Hopefully won't be needed but nice to know, that makes a huge difference if and when you run into issues.

Things I didn't care for: 

-Cocking mechanism. I really, really, really wish this was a biathlon style side lever. It is kinda cumbersome to cock, and you do have to ensure you don't short cycle the bolt.
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Not a deal breaker. From what I've read from other owners, it breaks in and gets smoother & easier over time. Is that your experience as well?

-Magazine: the .22 is a Marauder magazine. The larger calibers are modified Marauder magazines. I have always felt the Marauder magazine to feel kinda cheapish and fragile. Wish it had a better magazine system, especially at the guns price point. However, FX & Theoben have very similar style. Guess its a personal preference.
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As long as they work reliably and don't damage the pellets, I'm fine with that. The Daystate magazines are built and operate like Swiss watches, but spare magazines are expensive. 

-Sound control - in regards to the Flex only as I don't have the WARP....It would have been nice to see and incorporated shroud ldc, instead of just an ldc. Probably could significantly decrease the sound.Nut then again, I'm not an engineer and don't know if it was feasible, and I'm also one of those people who want their guns whisper quiet.

Don't know if this helps you at all or not. Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions.
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I also like my airguns as quiet as possible, so that's why I'm interested in the noise level. Thanks for the info!
 
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It does have a shroud and air stripper and a LDC Im not sure how one can miss that! It has a huge 1" shroud that is used to tension the barrel by tightning the stripper on the end and the LDC threads on the stripper. SUPER quiet, I hope you get one so someone other than me can post info. Manny the guy in Hawaii was banned from here so he cant post info on his and travis from WAR was banned from here and cant post and a few others also. Its a shame really as were loosing people here that have a wealth of info to share.JMHO
 
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I asked about the Warp on here a while ago. For some reason anyone with something bad to say did it through PM instead of on an open thread. I assume Travis must be a scary guy or something.

I was getting quite excited about buying one at the time. Feedback was 50% good and 50% mediocre. There wasn't that many quality data points though but it was enough to make me put the decision on ice until I heard a few more opinions.

I was desperately looking for the expensive air gun that was guaranteed to arrive looking, feeling and shooting at a level that reflected the price. I had this romanticized view of the enthusiast owner business carefully and painstakingly checking every detail but that was quickly shattered by what I was told. 

The general point was that a WAR product was no more or less likely to arrive with problems and rough edges than any other brand. For the price they were / are asking for one with a reg, cf bottle and slightly longer barrel, it wasn't worth the risk to me.

I remain interested in the Warp so if you do buy one, I would appreciate hearing honest feedback. I haven't totally gone off the idea. I just need more data points to get comfy with the price. 

The main thing when I priced it up (with the options I would have wanted) was that you could have almost any other air gun for the money. A cool (ish) AR compatible pistol is a nice to have but not for the same price as a RAW HM1000x. 

I got a Mutant Shorty and I remain convinced that there is no better short / woods walker 22 cal air gun at any price. The stock on the Mutants suck but you can buy a beautiful custom figured Walnut stock from Michal Osyda for one and still have a good chunk of change compared to a Warp. 

I guess it's easier for me though because I make my own custom stocks so I have two AR grip compatible Mutant stocks for when I feel like using something tactical. 

Let us know now what you decide. 
 
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Right now based on my research I'm leaning towards a Mutant Shorty with a black stock. 26-27FPE is fine for me, that's right where I have my Talon SS tuned with 18.1gr JSB Exact Jumbo Heavies. The stock is fine for its purpose, although I'd probably add a short rail section on the forestock for a bipod or handstop and would like to get it sent out for a Soft Touch finish (love Soft Touch on my Daystate Air Wolf MCT Tactical). 

I do a lot of my pesting from an interior mudroom door with the exterior door open, so the very short size for maneuverability is incredibly attractive as well the universal reports of how quiet and incredibly accurate it is.

Still haven't ruled out the WARP though. Taking my time to research.
 
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"zebra"I asked about the Warp on here a while ago. For some reason anyone with something bad to say did it through PM instead of on an open thread. I assume Travis must be a scary guy or something.

I was getting quite excited about buying one at the time. Feedback was 50% good and 50% mediocre. There wasn't that many quality data points though but it was enough to make me put the decision on ice until I heard a few more opinions.

I was desperately looking for the expensive air gun that was guaranteed to arrive looking, feeling and shooting at a level that reflected the price. I had this romanticized view of the enthusiast owner business carefully and painstakingly checking every detail but that was quickly shattered by what I was told. 

The general point was that a WAR product was no more or less likely to arrive with problems and rough edges than any other brand. For the price they were / are asking for one with a reg, cf bottle and slightly longer barrel, it wasn't worth the risk to me.

I remain interested in the Warp so if you do buy one, I would appreciate hearing honest feedback. I haven't totally gone off the idea. I just need more data points to get comfy with the price. 

The main thing when I priced it up (with the options I would have wanted) was that you could have almost any other air gun for the money. A cool (ish) AR compatible pistol is a nice to have but not for the same price as a RAW HM1000x. 

I got a Mutant Shorty and I remain convinced that there is no better short / woods walker 22 cal air gun at any price. The stock on the Mutants suck but you can buy a beautiful custom figured Walnut stock from Michal Osyda for one and still have a good chunk of change compared to a Warp. 

I guess it's easier for me though because I make my own custom stocks so I have two AR grip compatible Mutant stocks for when I feel like using something tactical. 

Let us know now what you decide. 
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Almost impossible to reply to such BS
 
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"balllistic"Right now based on my research I'm leaning towards a Mutant Shorty with a black stock. 26-27FPE is fine for me, that's right where I have my Talon SS tuned with 18.1gr JSB Exact Jumbo Heavies. The stock is fine for its purpose, although I'd probably add a short rail section on the forestock for a bipod or handstop and would like to get it sent out for a Soft Touch finish (love Soft Touch on my Daystate Air Wolf MCT Tactical). 

I do a lot of my pesting from an interior mudroom door with the exterior door open, so the very short size for maneuverability is incredibly attractive as well the universal reports of how quiet and incredibly accurate it is.

Still haven't ruled out the WARP though. Taking my time to research.
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Having owned both a Mutant (Standard) and a Flex I can say that going with the Mutant is a better choice. (IMHO)

Here's why:
1) Even though he "upgrades" the regulator with a Ninja Piston, the regulator body itself is CHINESE junk. Not sure why (other then cost) someone would put a Chinese regulator in a "Made in USA" gun. Originally he was paying $100 for the JDS Airman regs and he was just passing the cost on to customers. I put a Ninja piston into my regulator (and I must warn everyone that JDS does NOT advocate this and advises it is dangerous) and forwarded my much improved results to Travis. I then directed him to the Ninja pistons and even helped him locate the regulator bodies that he is now using. He is now getting the regulators for $20 each and the Ninja pistons for about $15. I figured he would pass the "savings" on to the new purchasers........but guess what? He still charges $100 for the regulator.
2) The Mutant magazine is MUCH better then the MRod "style" used on the WAR .25. I paid $50 for an additional mag from WAR and then I picked up an MRod mag for $10 and epoxied a washer to it and it works just as well as the WAR. Neither magazine is as accurate as the SS tray. I stopped using my mags for shots over 25yds.
3) The side lever on the Mutant is smoother/easier to work then the WAR (Flex)
4) The Mutant trigger is better then the Timney single stage my Flex had.
5) My personal experience is that the Mutant sold much quicker then the Flex and retained more of it's original valve.
6) If you post anything on the forums (that Travis has access to) that is not 100% supporting him, you will get a nasty PM "telling" you what to do. If you report him to the moderators you will be "told" more of the same. You will then likely be banned from posting and replying to PM's.

And now that I'm posting this I'm guessing he will be calling me a Troll as he calls Zebra. But I can guarantee you 100% that everything I have posted above is either personal knowledge, or information told to me by Travis himself.

 
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