MY NEW KRAL BREAKER SILENT BULL PUP...HONEST REVIEW!

The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly! But not in that order…
I bought this Kral Breaker Silent in the synthetic stock from Pyramid Air and it arrived this Thursday.
It cost $499.00 with free shipping… When I opened the box the gun and supplies were packed very well.

The BAD ….After checking to see all the parts and booklets the first thing I noticed was that the manual lists all the models on the front cover. To make things go faster I will say it shows the parts, how to remove the barrel, the magazine disassembly. However the trigger adjustment explains that it is done through the trigger guard, OF THE SHOTGUN!??? . There is no way or access hole through the trigger guard and when having the stock off it is adjusted at the rear of the gun, not at the trigger. You also need to take the stock off to adjust the hammer spring tension. The booklet does have a parts list, and exploded diagrams. The parts list you will need reading glasses to see it however.


The forearm has a compartment that the spare mag stores in. There was a bit of plastic flashing at the hinge that was sharp enough to scratch your hand. I removed it with an Exacto knife.
I filled a magazine and the pellets. They slip in easy, too easy for my liking, as the mag rattles when in the storage place in the front of the rifle., and in the breech. It leads to some glitchy pellet loading sometimes. It is not as fluid as with a FX magazine which this one looks like superficially. After shooting it for a bit this stopped being a real problem..(Learning curve I guess)
I put a UTG 3-12X50 scope on that I had laying around, waiting for a new gun. I could not get the sight picture, as the low rings are no good for this gun. The cheek piece is adjustable back to front but not up or down. I had to remove it to use the gun. I have a Atheon FFP scope coming this week, and will mount it with tall rings. Med rings might work too as it just puts my eye above the scope with the low rings and cheek piece on.
After a mag through the gun the lever would not close! It was binding on something. I removed the mag and still the same result. After moving it to my work bench I found the issue. The pivot screw on the lever worked its way out and was hitting the breech.


I screwed it back but it came back out with more cycling. I ended up using red Loctite as the blue did not hold. This morning I noticed the back-Barrel seating bolt was part way out! I tightened it too. I did notice all over the gun when I removed an allen bolt or other, it had some thin lube on it. Did they do this because the steel will rust easy…?? Time will tell. But I will be removing and drying all bolts to be sure.

Ok that’s the bad….
Now for the UGLY… I could not adjust the trigger any lighter the 1.5 lbs. I prefer a light trigger. My Styer has a 2.6 oz trigger for field target competitions. Too light for hunting conditions. The 1.5 is OK for now but I will get into the breech to see if polishing or metal removal will help. Not a biggie…
The power is! It came in at 31 FPE….? A little low powered IMHO. I drilled the adjustable port but it is so thin I don’t think I got 1 mm… The valve and the barrel may have some room to enlarge but that adjustable port will still restrict air flow.. But in the Meantime the milling out of the port and hammer adjustment gave me 35.5 FPE for now. A bit better. The gun has a CNC mono block making every internal tinkering tough, all parts are held in place with drift pins. Tougher but not impossible.
The gun is a little loud, with the hollow shroud. I ordered Mrod baffles that are supposed to fit in this guns shroud. 

I tried to put the short picatinny rail onto the brass insert at the bottom of the forearm. It comes with a bolt to bugger it down. Not really! The bolt bottomed out prior to the curved rail piece seating onto the stock…!! I had to find 2 thin washers that fit into the recess hole of the rail. Then drill them out with a 11/64” drill bit to allow the bolt to go through the tiny washers. Now it fits tight. 



Now for the GOOD!


! I love the feel of this thing! The gun with the heavy UTG scope weighs in at 9.8 lbs Better than my 14.5 lb Steyr and easier to hold for offhand shots…! After taking it out yesterday to my concrete bench rest setup. I used a Tack Driver bag and sighted it in at 30 yds. Then I aired up to 300 BAR and shot until it dropped off the POI to see the shot count..
It got 48 on POI shots before it started to drop….Remember this is a NON REGULATED gun. I got several hole in hole but the wind was blowing 12-15 constant from left to rt. When the gun reached 150 BAR I ended up with shots 35-39 in the same hole!
Now the other real world data…
It averaged 792 FPS for a ES of 8 and a SD of 2…..What! Not to shabby again for a non regulated gun
All in All a great bargain at the $499.00 price point for a stubby gun.. Need small amount of “tinkering” to get it right, but no major work up needed. Unless you want to.
Comes with a spare O ring kit, allen wrenches for stock removal, and cheek adjustment, and two 10 shot mags. It comes with the picatinnyshort rail for bipod attachment in the brass insert under the fore stock.
I took it over to “Camp Fussell” to let Jimmy have a go with it. He fired the first shot and it hit dead center on the bull at his 24-yard setup. After putting several shots in the same hole he went to 50 yards and tried 1.5 2 mildots down and just missed with the little UTG . He aimed at the Gong Target I made and gave him, and came down to 2 mildots. He hit it twice in a row on the button! I duplicated the same feat twice myself, and then shot and blew up some water bottles at 30 yards offhand, 2 times in a row. It is sweet for offhand shooting with the bulk of the weight back at your core. This is the first bull pup I have owned and I do like it.
All I can say is let the critters beware when I am out hunting deer. My deer season coincides with small game and I take the air rifle with me beside the powder burner.

My final thoughts… I would say this is an excellent accurate bull pup. I may experiment with getting a .177 and trying to set it up for field target. The price is right and the quality is very good. I will say that that damn little pivot bolt backed out again when Jimmy was shooting. I really hit it with the strong Loctite. I also cleaned the threads as they did have that lube on them, which may have prevented the Loctite to work the first time. It is the only reoccurring issue with this gun. I can think of several fixes. One is to drill a 1 mm hole through the handle at the threaded point and add a pin to hold it in place.
So If you are looking for a good priced bull pup that won’t break the bank and is really accurate out of the box, here it is.
Thanks for reading.
 
Yeah John, I corrected the pics by using photo bucket instead of Snapagogo. Snap has 6 different choices of links and one works only on the yellow, another on AGN,. Just to many choices I forget which is which.

I will bring the Kral to the Crosman. Remind me when it gets neearas I am getting old and forgetfully...Hahaha.

Had it to Jimmy's this morn and he was fairly impressed. Great out of the box for accuracy. I still need to get into the trigger group. 1.5 lb after a 1.8 oz Styer is a bad learning curve for me......lol
 
No John, the fire are in front of the pistol grip is exactly 4" from the centerline of the barrel to the bottom of the fire arm. If the picatinny rail is on it is 4.5" to the bottom.

The whole gun is the same height and length as Jimmy's Kaliber hummingbird bull pup. This thing is very compact and really easy to handle. I have a 6" Brocock moderator that screws on the front if the Kral with the shroud off. Only problem is I need to remove the air tube cap and inletting ring that covers the probe hole. Makes it super quiet. I have mrod baffles coming that fit the shroud. Guess they save on expense not having them included...
 
Great post Paul. I have to say I was pleasantly surprised with this little pup. It's a steal at this cost for an entry level bullpup. I had the .25 Synthetic Marauder a few years back and I believe I like this better for the price.
I was really surpised at being able to stack 3 and sometimes 4 pellets out of a 5 shot group at 24 yds. 
Oh, and that target is set at 28 yds from my porch where I normally shoot, but we were 4 yards closer sitting on the picnic table and didn't feel like moving the set up.

I still haven't shot a pellet at that new trap you made for me Paul, but I did do a post on it.

http://www.airgunnation.com/topic/when-does-one-have-enough-pellet-traps-and-targets/

Enjoyed shooting with you today and lunch was pretty damn good too!
Peace and Bullpup grease
Fuss
 
@EvoShift I also purchased a Kral instead of the Bullboss. It was a hard decision but the following points helped me make my decision
- The biggest factor was the power adjuster as there is a monthly competition near me that you need a sub 20 ft. lb gun to compete in
- Bullboss weighs more than Puncher (I think around 1.5 pounds)
-The reviews that I watched were pretty positive for both guns, but IMO the Kral seemed slightly better received
- Extra magazine with the Kral
- 10 shot mag capacity as opposed to 9
- Seems that the Kral is more consistent in terms of St Dev. and higher shot count by decent margin
- Really like the nickel (silver) look
- Of course there is the $100 bucks

I figured I would be pretty content with either one assuming I didnt get a steaming pile of ------- and so far so good :)
 
"Olevey"@EvoShift I also purchased a Kral instead of the Bullboss. It was a hard decision but the following points helped me make my decision

- The biggest factor was the power adjuster as there is a monthly competition near me that you need a sub 20 ft. lb gun to compete in

I figured I would be pretty content with either one assuming I didnt get a steaming pile of ------- and so far so good :)


I see how the 20 ft lb limitations of your competition would help make your decision for you. :)
But, if one doesn't have a self limitation of 20 ft lbs, it seems to me the Bullboss is the better choice.

Regardless, good luck with your Kral. :)
It IS a good looking gun. :)
 
What Olevey said are reasons I had.

But also because the Kral is 7" shorter and easier to manuver in a pop up blind, which is what the gun was bought for.

I am not a fan of the AR / tactical looking air rifles either. I have no need for the bristling picatinny rails as I don't need any acessories, except a bipod to keep it upright next to me in the blind. And the Bullboss is $200.00 more then the Kral in Synthetic stock.

But since I have several air rifles costing in the thousands. One in particular hovering around $7000 in competition form. It was not a money decision.

Just a fun, less expensive project that is functional too.
 
"strikefast"What Olevey said are reasons I had.

But also because the Kral is 7" shorter and easier to manuver in a pop up blind, which is what the gun was bought for.

I am not a fan of the AR / tactical looking air rifles either. I have no need for the bristling picatinny rails as I don't need any acessories, except a bipod to keep it upright next to me in the blind. And the Bullboss is $200.00 more then the Kral in Synthetic stock.

But since I have several air rifles costing in the thousands. One in particular hovering around $7000 in competition form. It was not a money decision.

Just a fun, less expensive project that is functional too.



With all due respect, your info is wrong.
A Bullboss can be delivered for just $65 more than the Krall.
And, for the extra 7 inches and $65, the Bullboss offers more power, and sound suppression, from the factory.
It seems to me the Bullboss is the better buy. Especially when you consider it's superior cocking handle position, and proven AT44 platform. 


I wanted to buy the Krall.
But, I just can't see the reason to buy the Krall PB over the Bullboss. 
 
"balllistic"Thanks for the honest review Paul, I demoed one at New England Airgun and it's definitely on my wishlist.

How come I keep reading about the Bullboss in every thread about the PB? Give it a rest...

Most people who are looking to buy the Kral (like I was),
will be comparing it to the Bullboss, because the Bullboss is the direct competition to the Kral PB.

Anyone who isn't a blatant troll, and has a sufficient IQ, could have figured that out on their own.

If you have a problem, be a man and private message me.
We can address whatever issues you may have, in addition to your IQ. 

( Just to clarify for 3rd parties, this trolling is spillover from a similar thread, on another board, where identical trolling occurred, for comparing the Kral to the Bullboss.
Enough is enough. )
 
Im new to this issue and imo the Kral pb and bullboss are in the same league. That said Nice review, not sure what calibre you where talking about im guessing .25 since you feel its under powered. Thats true, seems like it would be a better gun in .177 or 22.

Really tempted to pick one up for this summer in .177 but might have to save my dosh for a .22lr.
 
Alright, info on the money was off a little. The Bullboss is $649.00 at Pyramid and my Kral in Synthetic was $499.00 that makes it $150.00
Less than the Bullboss by my math. And it is 7.8 " longer,. almost 8"

I needed the shortest, least expensive bull pup for my purpose.

The purpose of my thread was to give an honest review of the Kral I bought. Not to compare it to another company's offering. I don't know about the trolling reference, but I do know about opinions. As the saying goes, they are like ________s, everybody has one.
And apparently this forum does too. Please try to restrict the comments to the specifics of the Kral and the review. If we need a comparison of the other gun to it, just simply do your own post. Leave this one to folks who were interested in the Good, the Bad, and the ugly...Thanks
 
"EvoShift"( Just to clarify for 3rd parties, this trolling is spillover from a similar thread, on another board, where identical trolling occurred, for comparing the Kral to the Bullboss.
Enough is enough. )
You seem to have me confused with someone else.

Paul - from what I've read from other owners, Kral is very liberal with their application of thread locker on these guns. Iit seems strange that Kral apparently applies liberal amounts of thread locker on just about every other part except the lever pivot bolt screw and barrel seating bolt. As far as the trigger on yours, on the one I demoed, it was very light with no distinct first stage which I did not like at all. I guess for $500 you're not going to get the consistency from gun to gun off of the assembly line when it comes to these types of details, but like you said, if you mind tinkering a little bit you can sort most of them out yourself.
 
Ballistic, I agree. That piviot thing is more of an annoyance for me but a simple fix. The trigger on this gun was the opposite of what you had. It was a long first stage and a crisp but hard second. It is light enough at 2.5 lbs for hunting without pulling the gun off the POI. I just have gotten used to a very light trigger on my competition guns.

All I can say is they must have switched the Thread Locker with lube on this gun. All the bolts I checked have had lube on them not Thread Locker....Lol

Demo gun!? If at a show they may have possibly worked that gun's trigger for sale purposes.....?

Either way, I still like the guns feel and performance. ES of 8 and SD of 2 is very good for any gun....Especially out of the box.