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kmd1984

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Hi,

I had my MTC Viper Pro for a few weeks now, and I was looking forward to post a review about. However, my Benjamin hand pump blew a seal and left me with no way to fill my FX Bobcat Mk2. I tried to replace the seal, but that made it even worse, ha ha. So I ended up ordering a Carbon Fiber Tank. It should get here this week. Once I get it, I will see what the Scope can do, including going to a 100 yard INDOOR gun range! How cool is that?!

For now, I would like to post some HOW TO instructions, on how to make a turret tape for the Viper Pro. I am by all means no graphic designer or what not, but this is the best I came up with. It should work just fine... : ) Have a look for yourselves: I use a FREE software called paint.net.

What you want to do is:

– First, check what resolution your printer has. Mine is 600 dpi (dots per inch) and go to http://www.endmemo.com/sconvert/dpipixel_cm.php
– Enter your DPI and convert to Pixels/CM
– Write the pixels/cm down
– Open Paint.net
– Go to File – New OR click Ctrl+N
– Under resolution enter the number your wrote down
– Under Print Size enter your width and height. I prefer millimeters so I chose cm.
– Hit OK and start drawing. Tip: On the bottom right you have a ruler. It will help you to put lines, numbers and what not, exactly where you want them to be…After you are done designing your tape, here is what you need to do:– Go to File – Save As and chose PNG

Done with paint.net

– Open Microsoft Paint
– On the top left corner is a symbol without a name (other programs name is FILE, but in this case it is just a symbol). Click that and then click OPEN
– Pick the PNG file you created earlier
– Click “FILE” Symbol again, then Print – Page Setup
– Under SCALING pick ADJUST TO: and leave at 100%.

When you now print this page, it will be EXACTLY to what you want it to be in “real life” (for the lack of a better word, ha ha). In other words, if you measured your tape to be 100mm long and 15mm high, it will be EXACTLY 100mm x 15mm. I guess you call this TO SCALE?!Done.I know it sounds a bit complicated, but it really isn’t. I was actually looking for a way to create a turret tape for my new MTC Viper Pro. I also made a video. I say some things on there that I do not want to share, so I just picked a stupid song and slapped it over my voice… : )


Thanks,

Kmd


EDIT:

The above instructions are meant to make a tape AFTER you went to the range, creating a MASTER TAPE (if you want to call it that?). Technically, what you want/need to do FIRST is this:

- Take the gun to the range.
- Zero it at lets say 50 yards.
- Install a blank turret tape.
- Take first shot.
- Your pellet should impact where you zeroed the scope, and as such you would mark the tape with 50. Or a 0 (Zero) what ever you prefer. 
- Move the target to lets say 55 yards and shoot. Move the turret so the cross hairs line up with the point of impact. Mark that on your tape as 55 yards.
- Repeat for each distance you like.

After you are done doing that, take your "blank" tape and make a nice one, using my method as described in the thread/video above.

Thanks,

Kmd
 
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Thank you.

Like I said, I am waiting for my gear to show up, so I can finally fill my gun again! I guess I should have never gotten rid of my FX Indy, ha ha.

Anyhow, I cannot make that decision for you, of course, but I can tell you this much: This IS a quality scope. There are many things about it I really like. One of them is the fact that the top turret has a gear box in it. I really like that...

Kmd
 
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"MANICMINER"what are you trying to achieve? just stick a tape in there, no markings. then you use a pen, you can use different pen with different colours for different pellets/weights. no need to make mm paper there.
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I am not planning on making mm paper. I am talking about using mm as a unit, when measuring the circumferences of my turret.

I guess you can simply put a piece of tape/paper around the turret and have it overlap at the ends. That way you don't even have to measure the "length" of the tape/paper. You can then also just writ eon the tape/paper and call it a day.

However, I am not going to spend $1899 on an air rifle, $600/scope, $350 for a tank/fill station, $150/camera mount and $500 for a outdoor surveillance system (so I get notified when some Magpies show up), so I can slap some lousy piece of paper/tape over my turret! LOL. You know what I mean... : )

thanks,

Kmd
 
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"AR"Any updates on the scope?
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Well, yes and no. 

I got to the point where I have everything I need in order to head to my local (30 minutes away) 100 yard, indoor gun range:

- a ton of new ammo to try.
- Eagle Scope Camera mount.
- CF tank, so I can shoot a few hundred rounds, if I have to.
- Cameras all charged up and ready to go.
- Carrying Case for my Bobcat Mk2.
- Self adhesive photo paper to print some range tapes.
- Bipod installed.

I guess that is it for now. : ) My plan is to go on Tuesday and get it over with. The indoor range should be perfect for this kind of test!

Having said that. Here are a few things I noticed about the scope, I can share now:

- The reticle seems very thin. It works just fine when I am looking straight through the scope, but when using a 'point and shoot' camera, or a phone, I have a hard time seeing the reticle. I mean, I can see it, but I wish it would be thicker.

- The ON/OFF button for the reticle illumination is a pain. It is on the left side, in the middle of the Parallax adjuster. You have to really press it hard to come on, and then press hard again to cycle through the different illumination levels. Speaking of illumination: The only part of the reticle that is illuminated is the center cross. I have a UTC that is illuminated and the button is a thousand times easier to use. That goes for turning it on and off, as well as changing the intensity. The intensity on the UTC is insanely bright. On top of that, the entire reticle is illuminated.

- The flip covers work really well. The fact that they have magnets in them to keep it at certain positions, is genius. 

Anyhow, there is more to say, but I am running out of time. I should be able to continue tomorrow in the a.m. Sorry.

Thanks,

Kmd
 
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"Saltlake58"Stupid question time. Where did you get the scope?
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I guess yo are a victim of "auto-spell", ha ha. Anyhow, I got it here:

Home[/QUOTE]http://trenieroutdoors.com/embed/

My plan is to head to the 100 yard indoor range tomorrow or Wednesday. I have everything ready. Pellets, Cameras, Tank, you name it. Can't wait...

Thanks,

Kmd
 
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OK Folks, here is some more info I would like to share about the MTC Viper Pro: In no particular order:

– The scope needs a sun shade. I spoke to someone from MTC and they said they will send some out. (If I remember correctly. Do not quote me on that one).

– The little ”lever” to lock the turrets is really hard to use. Probably gets better with time, but for now, it is really hard. Also mpossible to use with gloves on.

– I like that the scope caps/covers are magnetic. They will never wear out.

– The rear flip cover is screwed on (so is the front one), and I am having a bit of a hard time with it, especially when you want to take it off real quick in order to mount a camera mount. I would suggest using something that you push on, or something like a ring that is open on one end and you just "click" it on (hard to describe).

– The scope is big and ”heavy”. I like that. It feels very sturdy. The build quality is really nice!– The build in light that illuminates the reticle is not that bright. If I remember correctly it has 7 different brightness settings. However, even on the brightest setting, I find it very hard to see, especially on a bright day. I never used the scope at night. BTW, the whole reticle is not illuminated, it is "just" a small cross in the center.
The button to use the light is really hard to use. It is in the center of the parallax turret and you have to push really hard to turn it on and off. I also never really know if it is on or off, unless I look into the scope ”sideways”, meaning I looked at the sidewalls of the scope and only see the reticle as a ”ghost”. I hope you know what I mean?!

– The reticle is also very thin compared to my other scopes.Now to the ”important” stuff… : )

I have a local 100 yard outdoor gun range, I went to a couple of times using my Athlon, and the MTC scope. The few times I went, I did not focus on anything other than shooting nice tight groups. This time I went to a 100 yard indoor range, in order to test different pellets and to test the MTC scopes features a little bit better.

I took some blue painters masking tape and put it around the top turret. I bought some photo paper that is self adhesive, to accomplish the same thing, however, the masking tape seemed perfect for the task. Sure, it is blue, but at this point no one cares.

I zeroed the scope at 30 yards, and put a mark on the tape. I then shot at 50 yards and put another mark on the tape. Believe it or not, that was it. Sorry. I ran out of time and was not able to do some more testing on what is actually the most important feature of the scope…That's it for now. I will do some more testing and a video/pictures in a few days.

Thanks,

Kmd

EDIT: I spoke to MTC and they told me that the reticle is thin, because it is a long range scope and as such a thicker reticle would obscure the target. They also told me that the illumination of the reticle is the way it is, because it is intended to be used mainly at night. Makes sense to me. : )
 
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"kmd1984"OK Folks, here is some more info I would like to share about the MTC Viper Pro:In no particular order:– The scope needs a sun shade. I spoke to someone from MTC and they said they will send some out. (If I remember correctly. Do not quote me on that one).– The little ”lever” to lock the turrets is really hard to use. Probably gets better with time, but for now, it is really hard. Also mpossible to use with gloves on.–

I like that the scope caps/covers are magnetic. They will never wear out.– The rear flip cover is screwed on (so is the front one), and I am having a bit of a hard time with it, especially when you want to take it off real quick in order to mount a camera mount. I would suggest using something that you push on, or something like a ring that is open on one end and you just "click" it on (hard to describe).–

The scope is big and ”heavy”. I like that. It feels very sturdy. The build quality is really nice!– The build in light that illuminates the reticle is not that bright. If I remember correctly it has 7 different brightness settings. However, even on the brightest setting, I find it very hard to see, especially on a bright day. I never used the scope at night. BTW, the whole reticle is not illuminated, it is "just" a small cross in the center.

The button to use the light is really hard to use. It is in the center of the parallax turret and you have to push really hard to turn it on and off. I also never really know if it is on or off, unless I look into the scope ”sideways”, meaning I looked at the sidewalls of the scope and only see the reticle as a ”ghost”. I hope you know what I mean?!– The reticle is also very thin compared to my other scopes.Now to the ”important” stuff… : )

I have a local 100 yard outdoor gun range, I went to a couple of times using my Athlon, and the MTC scope. The few times I went, I did not focus on anything other than shooting nice tight groups. This time I went to a 100 yard indoor range, in order to test different pellets and to test the MTC scopes features a little bit better…I took some blue painters masking tape and put it around the top turret. I bought some photo paper that is self adhesive, to accomplish the same thing, however, the masking tape seemed perfect for the task. Sure, it is blue, but at this point no one cares.

I zeroed the scope at 30 yards, and put a mark on the tape. I then shot at 50 yards and put another mark on the tape. Believe it or not, that was it. Sorry. I ran out of time and was not able to do some more testing on what is actually the most important feature of the scope…That's it for now. I will do some more testing and a video/pictures in a few days.

Thanks,

Kmd
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For the visually impaired. Like myself.
 
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"kmd1984"OK Folks, here is some more info I would like to share about the MTC Viper Pro:In no particular order:– The scope needs a sun shade. I spoke to someone from MTC and they said they will send some out. (If I remember correctly. Do not quote me on that one).– The little ”lever” to lock the turrets is really hard to use. Probably gets better with time, but for now, it is really hard. Also mpossible to use with gloves on.–

I like that the scope caps/covers are magnetic. They will never wear out.– The rear flip cover is screwed on (so is the front one), and I am having a bit of a hard time with it, especially when you want to take it off real quick in order to mount a camera mount. I would suggest using something that you push on, or something like a ring that is open on one end and you just "click" it on (hard to describe).–

The scope is big and ”heavy”. I like that. It feels very sturdy. The build quality is really nice!– The build in light that illuminates the reticle is not that bright. If I remember correctly it has 7 different brightness settings. However, even on the brightest setting, I find it very hard to see, especially on a bright day. I never used the scope at night. BTW, the whole reticle is not illuminated, it is "just" a small cross in the center.

The button to use the light is really hard to use. It is in the center of the parallax turret and you have to push really hard to turn it on and off. I also never really know if it is on or off, unless I look into the scope ”sideways”, meaning I looked at the sidewalls of the scope and only see the reticle as a ”ghost”. I hope you know what I mean?!– The reticle is also very thin compared to my other scopes.Now to the ”important” stuff… : )

I have a local 100 yard outdoor gun range, I went to a couple of times using my Athlon, and the MTC scope. The few times I went, I did not focus on anything other than shooting nice tight groups. This time I went to a 100 yard indoor range, in order to test different pellets and to test the MTC scopes features a little bit better…I took some blue painters masking tape and put it around the top turret. I bought some photo paper that is self adhesive, to accomplish the same thing, however, the masking tape seemed perfect for the task. Sure, it is blue, but at this point no one cares.

I zeroed the scope at 30 yards, and put a mark on the tape. I then shot at 50 yards and put another mark on the tape. Believe it or not, that was it. Sorry. I ran out of time and was not able to do some more testing on what is actually the most important feature of the scope…That's it for now. I will do some more testing and a video/pictures in a few days.

Thanks,

Kmd
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For the visually impaired. Like myself.
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I am not sure what exactly you mean, but I can take an educated guess, ha ha.

Are you talking about the fact that my post was all cramped together, with no paragraphs and what not?! I believe so. Not sure what had happened... I wrote it in word and then pasted it in here?! As you can see, my post looks different when you quoted it as well?! Anyhow, I fixed that. Hopefully much easier on the eyes now, ha ha.

Thanks,

Kmd
 
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Update...

It's 4:14 in the morning, so I will keep it short...

I just got done "messing" around some more with the range tape feature. I tried all kinds of "tapes", from self adhesive photo paper, all the way to different masking tapes and the likes. Anyhow. That's not important right. What's important, is the fact that,

IT WORKS LIKE A CHARM!!!

Check range with laser range finder, turn turret to desired range, DONE! Pretty damn simple. No need to fuzz around with your phone and ballistics software anymore. I like that a lot. : )

Having said that... I will post some pictures and videos in the new year.

Happy New Year!!!

Thanks,

Kmd
 
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At this point, I really enjoy using the "range tape" feature of the scope. You take your range finder, find your range, dial it in.... BAM! That is it. Nothing to it but to do it. LOL.

I guess the "mistake" I made in the beginning, was to spend to much time trying to find a perfect way of how to make the tape, instead of simply using A PIECE OF TAPE and be done with it, ha ha.

Thanks,

Kmd
 
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Got mine today from Trenier, Jeff is a super guy to deal with.
i got the 5-30x50, mounted with FX No-Limit rings. On my Raw HM1000x in .30. Hope to start ranging it in this weekend.



over seems very sturdy scope, everything works smooth, the reticle light button is very easy to push with a soft touch. Covers are very nice, torrent locks switch smoothly.
 
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