"Labradar" pellet tracking with radar; velocity to BC correlation first 20 yds.

Labradar is a new bullet/pellet radar tracking instrument.
I bought one of the first batch and yes, to me in Australia, it was expensive. BUT there is no way I will/can shoot it dead as I have done to three other "chronographs" so in the long run it may prove cheap.

JSB .177 Heavies and TM 1000 were used.
10 pellet strings were shot at each of 7 different velocities from Average 703 to 893 fps.
The average velocities of each 10 shots was recorded for V0 and V20 yards (also at V3, V20 and V22 yrds).

The average velocities for each 10 shot series at V0 and V20 yrds was computed into a ballistic coefficient BC using both Chairgun and Steve NC calculators.

The correlations between the derived BCs and the relevant velocity averages are recorded in the chart. Each data point being the average of ten shots, (70 shots in all).



Am wondering what 750 fps will bring; and 920 fps if I can get it with this gun and pellets.

Using 8.4 gr JSB I can get well up the 900s fps with the TM 1000 - another day.

It would not be wise to draw any conclusions about longer range data from this preliminary 20 yard test. But a glance at some of the other data suggests the pellets are doing better between 3 yd and 22 yd than from 0 to 20 yd. ... pellets "settling down"? Well we will see as time and opportunity allow me to play farther. Previous work I have done measuring velocities with chronographs to 50, 100 and 200 yards has suggested the trend to better BC continues to 100 yards and perhaps further with best pellets in best conditions.

The Labradar is working trouble free for me so far for the .177 TM 1000 used in this experiment- being easy to adjust for velocity; FX Elite .22; BSA .25 Hornet and a Benjamin 342 .22 pumper. Yes I do read the User Manual and follow the instructions!
However it eats AA batteries. My answer is to plug it into power with a mobile phone mini USB charger here at home. But I intend buying a laptop battery re-chargeable storage charger for use outdoors at the farm. 10 Ah at 5 V should be plenty.
Kind regards, Yrrah.

 
"17bullet"Do any of your airguns not have enough muzzle report to trigger on the radar?
So far all are registering the way it is set up for me. I have tried it in the dark and today it worked perfectly through a light shower of rain and I suspect one or two actually hit rain drops.
Years ago I concluded that in drenching rain about one or two in eight would hit in a trip to 60 yards (would need to go back to verify the figure)..
Possibly not many shooters would get the use I will from this. As time goes by I will find out its limitations. ........... Kind regards, Harry.

 
"Michael"Well now that's pretty neat. Doesn't look like they're for sale yet in US. I selected "Buy Now" and it says sign up for pricing and availability in April 2015.

http://www.mylabradar.com/
I had my credit committed back in about mid March Michael and was lucky to get one of the few in the first batch. I think maybe others went to PB shooters as there was a lot of early interest from that direction. .... Thanks for the time you are devoting to the forum, it is appreciated. Best regards, Harry.
 
It is probably a mistake to use BC taken over the first yards and then used to plot trajectory for longer range shots.
Most agree that the BC of the 8.4 gr JSB is about 0.022 or so.
But take a look at what may be happening in the first 22 yards as in 0-3 yards; 0-15 yds, 0-20 yds and 0-22 yds. The BC appears to be climbing but won't reach an average of 0.022 or so for some distance further down range (to be determined). I know it to be so at 0-50 yd tested over that range.

10 shots at mv 963 fps and tracked to 22 yards. BCs as averages of the ten data points at each range.



Regards, Harry.
 
This Gateway is fine Harry. If you want to review the radar unit specifically then you could post under the REVIEWS Gateway.

As far as this post is concerned, instead of creating a new topic, I would suggest that next time you add it onto your previous post. In doing so the topic will jump back up to the top of the page.

For now I will "Merge" your two topics together.

Thanks for sharing your findings.

One question. I assume that the radar unit does not calculate the BC because you keep referring to Steve NC calculator. Is this true?
 
"Michael"One question. I assume that the radar unit does not calculate the BC because you keep referring to Steve NC calculator. Is this true?
Good Michael, I understand.
I think that is correct but the Instructions about upgrades lead me to suspect future units may have more facility.
I will venture deeper into the downloaded data and see if I am mistaken.
Best regards, Harry.