How do you remove the waxy sunstance on the JSB pellets. My JSB 33.95's have a waxy gel coating on them. How do you strip them down to bear lead? Ive been using acetone works well but just wanted to see other ways?
JSB pellets and waxy substance?
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I've not heard of this. What make barrels are getting caked up? Is there a reference I might peruse?
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Since I am still a noob to air gunning I turn to the established sources of experience and expertise on my questions. Once such is the Air Gun Academy series that I found on YouTube. In one episode this very question was posed... what is pellet lubing and why is it done? The salient point here is that the lubing, whether an oil/wax compound or a graphite powder layer, is used to keep the lead from oxidizing while is sits around waiting to be expended. Moreover, the lube substance does build up in the gun barrel, but only to a "point of stasis" (my own phrase for it); that point of build-up where a passing pellet scrapes out about as much built up lube material as it in turn deposits in the barrel. The upshot then is that most air gun barrels used for general air gunning, and not ultra-precision shooting, do not need to have this build up cleaned out and in fact barrels may be damaged by too much cleaning. Pretty much a "ain't broke so don't fix" kind of situation. So, there's a noob's take on this topic; now "Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war" for all those with contrary information or opinion.
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Barring further hard data to the contrary, I think I will leave my pellets the way they are. At least in my FX barrels. Maybe others are more sensitive?
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Stsrter fluid strips pellets to bear lead works great! Be sure to run water over after though. They look shiny new after become very grippy! My impact is with ernest cant wait to shoot it when it gets back
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Well Frank,
First, I never wrote that I don't know what waxy substance you're referring to. I did however ask what barrels are getting "caked up", as I'm unfamiliar with the problem and have seen no references to same other than yours. I politely asked for more information on barrel caking, but have yet to be offered one...
Second, I shoot the same weight JSBs that you do, in both MkI and MkII. There is certainly some sort of coating, but "waxy gel" is not the adjective I'd choose. Perhaps, as posted by a couple of members above, that's because the lubricant is graphite rather than wax?
Third, and only because you have seen fit to pounce on my relative newb status, I'd like to point out that the tube from which said pellets are expelled is known as a barrel, and not a "berral". Even a newb knows that much.
First, I never wrote that I don't know what waxy substance you're referring to. I did however ask what barrels are getting "caked up", as I'm unfamiliar with the problem and have seen no references to same other than yours. I politely asked for more information on barrel caking, but have yet to be offered one...
Second, I shoot the same weight JSBs that you do, in both MkI and MkII. There is certainly some sort of coating, but "waxy gel" is not the adjective I'd choose. Perhaps, as posted by a couple of members above, that's because the lubricant is graphite rather than wax?
Third, and only because you have seen fit to pounce on my relative newb status, I'd like to point out that the tube from which said pellets are expelled is known as a barrel, and not a "berral". Even a newb knows that much.
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Your one of those people arent you lol go on with your perfect grammatically correct self. Lmao you acted like you were puzzled when i said that waxy stuff gets caked inside my berral. Try not to over think it smart guy. Crackin me up my dude. Hey common since where ya at come smack this guy real hard for me.
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My shooting experience is below your standards, my education is is above, and both are cause for your derision. Got it. That's twice you've changed the topic and dodged the questions posed, though, so I must conclude then that you have nothing of substance to add.
Perhaps someone, anyone, can contribute value to this rapidly declining thread, reporting whether their JSBs are covered in a "waxy gel" or any other substance which causes accuracy issues, and if so, what type barrels?
Perhaps someone, anyone, can contribute value to this rapidly declining thread, reporting whether their JSBs are covered in a "waxy gel" or any other substance which causes accuracy issues, and if so, what type barrels?
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I'm getting pellets from various mfg's and they all have a different 'feel' to touch. On the JSB's I can see the graphite, others just leave a sample of the coating on my fingers. I leave them as they are and expect change if I switch pellet brand. I only clean my barrels when the POI starts to drift, which is not that often (maybe every 1500 pellets). I keep my empty tins for count. 4000 so far. That is also my total experience with airguns. I have 3; crosman P1377, Benjamin Trail NP break barrel pistol .177 and a crosman Vantage NP .22 break barrel. My favorite so far is the 1377.
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I have an fx impact clearly stated above hmm G what berrels do they use ohh yeah smooth twist. The question originally was how do the rest of you clean your pellets? Idk why your so worried about berrals. If you were so concerned about what berrals are having this problem then look it up yourslef pretty simple to do. I started this topic by asking how to clean pellets. Then you wanna question me about how the stuff gets inside my berral. Clearly you cant shoot good enough to notice the difference between clean pellets and dirty so just dont worry about it bud. Another common sense moment here. Led fowling is gonna occur no matter what and after a period of time it should be cleaned out. Anything extra being left behind by the pellets isnt good just think about it. Do me a favor and dont reply just think real hard about it and try to understand. Thanks for your stupid comments though got a good laugh each time.
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What IS it with you and these personal attacks?
And now the third change of topic is lead fouling?
I would have never questioned lead fouling, because that's a well known malady. If lead fouling is your concern, then perhaps removing the graphite hurts more than helps. That's up to you, of course, and I really could not care less.
As to your suggestion that I "look up" this waxy buildup theory of yours: I have tried several times, via searches with several wording combinations, to find anyone other than yourself claiming that JSBs have a waxy gel on them or that said substance is caking in their barrels.
While you claim that this waxy gel buildup is a "fact", so far my searches have yielded no results to verify your observations. None.
Meanwhile, others in this very thread have posted information pointing to the lubricant being graphite, not wax, and not a gel. One member posted some well written information indicating that the graphite accumulates to a point, ceases to accumulate further, and is basically a non-issue.
I'm trying here. I really am. If this waxy gel buildup information is such common knowledge then please stop with the personal insults and insinuations that I'm just too new or stupid to understand. Lead me to these references.
Someone. Anyone. Please.
Thanks.
And now the third change of topic is lead fouling?
I would have never questioned lead fouling, because that's a well known malady. If lead fouling is your concern, then perhaps removing the graphite hurts more than helps. That's up to you, of course, and I really could not care less.
As to your suggestion that I "look up" this waxy buildup theory of yours: I have tried several times, via searches with several wording combinations, to find anyone other than yourself claiming that JSBs have a waxy gel on them or that said substance is caking in their barrels.
While you claim that this waxy gel buildup is a "fact", so far my searches have yielded no results to verify your observations. None.
Meanwhile, others in this very thread have posted information pointing to the lubricant being graphite, not wax, and not a gel. One member posted some well written information indicating that the graphite accumulates to a point, ceases to accumulate further, and is basically a non-issue.
I'm trying here. I really am. If this waxy gel buildup information is such common knowledge then please stop with the personal insults and insinuations that I'm just too new or stupid to understand. Lead me to these references.
Someone. Anyone. Please.
Thanks.
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