Hawke Chairgun Pro Turret Tapes

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MddogHutty

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Hi guys I have never done a turret tape I have a hawke airmax 30sf 3x12x50 and would like to make a turret tape. On my scope it is 15MOA and Chairgun only starts at 16MOA. So do I add it in the menu in clicks I think 15MOA is 60 so on the turret box on Chairgun do I add 60 to get the precise scope tape for my scope. Any help much appreciated please leave your comments thx. 
 
Hi oldspook thx for the rerply i have searched youtube endlessly with no joy why i keep coming up stumped is when i enter my data into chairgun pro and goto the turret tape editor. My zero on my rifle is 35 yards and i have put my turrets to the zero marker so that its set at 0 on windage and 0 on range. But when bringing up chairgun for my hawke scope on the turret tape the 35 yard marking is not on the 0 like you would think been that my zero, its at 8 clicks. So i wondered if im missing something my scope is a hawke airmax 30sf 3x12x50ir 15 MOA 1/4 which im sure is 60 clicks per revolution. So i enter the data into the programe and that is what it comes up with on the turret tape so if you know if im missing something please let me know thx.
 
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Mdog, this is how mine looks. I zero my guns at 60yds but I start the yardage around 30-35yds on the tape design. So once you make the tape, print it out and trim it you'll just have to line up your 35yd click mark on your tape with the scopes turret click mark while the gun is freshly zero'd at 35yds in your case. In your case and mine your zero yardage (35) won't necessarily be on the far end of the tape as the first number. If you need more help let me know and I'll try to help you out.
Jimmy
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Thx for your reply jking yes the problem i'm having is that on your scope tape your 35 yard zero is on the 0 on the tape but when i do mine its on the 11th click. Why is it when my zero is set on 35 yard zero why is it that my 35 yard zero isn't on the 0 mark. If you could help me with this i would be very greatfull here is my pic of chairgun.
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I might have confused you Mdog, In my 4th sentence I shouldn't have said mine was zero'd at 35 like yours. My scope is zero'd at 60yds but I added the closer yardages for the closer shots. If you can add some more yardages like15,20,25,30. That will give you more options for closer shots if needed plus it'll fill up the right side of the tape with some numbers. You mention wanting your 35 at the zero mark but in reality with the tape there's not a zero starting position. Once you print it out just imagine coiling it up and taping the ends together. What you have then is a continuous circle. Now imagine just slipping it on the turret you'd be able to spin the tape around and line up the tapes 35yrd with your zero line and then fixing the tape to your turret permanently with tape. .You could actually take the turret off the scope without disturbing your scope's 35yrd adjustment for your zero, attach the tape in ANY position on the turret and then put the turret back on the scope with the tapes 35yd mark dead center of your scopes zero mark or dot.

Looking at your tape it looks really long. compared to mine. The diameter of my Sightrons turret is 1.12". Your snipit is hard to see but it looks like 2.0" . Is it really that large? This is what determines the overall length of the tape. Here's a little closer shot of my set up for the Sightron. Notice my 60yd zero is not on the end.
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I'd double check all your measurements for the turret screen and also your Chairguns screen. Make sure your velocity is a good number, your scope height, scope magnification and the BC is good. Hopefully this will get you going. I had hell the first time I tried it too.Let me know if I can help further.
 
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Hi jking yes your right about the turret tape size I haven't set that yet has I wanted to get it write first of all the thing where I was lost is when I have added all my data and when the turret tape comes up why the 35yard is where it is. I would of thought it would of started at the zero. Or is it that my scope 15 MOA so what I did was 15MOA is 60 clicks per revolution isn't it. So put that in so what your saying is once printed out and wrap round the turret put the 35 yard to my 0 that would be great then. Has I have never used a scope this way before and I'll be using the clicks instead of the MOA will the amount of clicks be the same has what it would suggest has MOA has my scope is an MOA scope. Newbie question I know just wanting to make sure of someone who knows. I will have to use a caliper to find the correct size for my tape unless I could find that out online from hawke but thankyou so much for your help my friend. 
 
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Also looking at yours that's why I was going wrong I thought you had to line up the click numbers with what's on your scope. Now I get it once the tape is printed out cut the bottom of with the numbers trim it too size then put the 35 to your zero. What a plum I am should of looked at yours properly before answering but was on my phone. I'm pretty sure that's what you was pointing to also with you saying add some other distances how do you do that on the custom distances. Has I tried that before it wouldn't except them. So if you could let me know how to get past that would be great thx. 
 
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You shouldn't have any trouble adding the other numbers. Sometimes it doesn't change it on the tape until you click on something else, like the turns setting or just hitting enter. Then the tape will update. The bad part about it, say from 35-50 the pellet is flying fast enough and flat enough that the turret doesn't have to be adjusted much but it also clumps those yardages close together. The faster the speed the more clumped up they are. I'm still learning too. Just put the range you want in and don't worry about the zeroing value. It would probably help to to go ahead and put all the info in correctly on the Hawke main page because a few of the those value really effect the tape appearance. (velocity,scope height, and scope magnification). Also when you trim the ends off, the last lines on each end need to stay. If you measure the turret diameter correctly they should touch perfectly end to end when you put them on the turret. I also learned later on in my Chairgun schooling that you can right click on the data blocks and it'll give you some options of what you can select. Example is the "Clicks/MOA" box. It'll list your options. Here's another reference look.
Jimmy
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Guys,

Is there a way to make a similar tape for the ranges listed on a sidewheel? I have the new Sidewinder FFP scope, and I want to use the 2" side wheel that I bought (the ranges are listed upside down) so making a range tape would make the side wheel usable again (without having to use the smaller, stock turret, or the included 4" wheel.

Thanks,


Sean
 
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Hey Sean, I think that's over and beyond my computer skill level, lol. I bet there is way though. My bow site (HHA) uses some pre-made adhesive scales that you select after doing a 20 and 60yd sight in so something similar to that might be an option. Most of the side focus wheels that I've seen marked were done by hand after the shooter carefully found each yardage by focusing. I think that would be the easiest and best way. Are you looking to use it for yardage estimation and then using your hold overs or turret adjustments?
That's all I got, sorry man
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"jking"Hey Sean, I think that's over and beyond my computer skill level, lol. I bet there is way though. My bow site (HHA) uses some pre-made adhesive scales that you select after doing a 20 and 60yd sight in so something similar to that might be an option. Most of the side focus wheels that I've seen marked were done by hand after the shooter carefully found each yardage by focusing. I think that would be the easiest and best way. Are you looking to use it for yardage estimation and then using your hold overs or turret adjustments?
That's all I got, sorry man
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Thanks for the feedback. Long story short: I have the new Hawke Sidewinder FFP scope, and purchased the 2" sidewheel for the scope (something bigger than 'no knob' but smaller than the 4" so I can leave it on in my gun case). Anyway, the 2" wheel is supposed to be compatible with the Sidewinder scopes-and it is, sort of: the markings rotate in the wrong direction for the scope. So I'm debating on whether to send it back or improvise and make a custom tape forr the side wheel now.

Yes, I like the idea of the HHA approach-that's basically what I'm after. Once the relationship is known, simple trigonometry should allow scaling between different diameters for the tape creation. Shoot, I guess I can just figure it out myself, by measuring off the 4" wheel, and then doing the math myself (I guess I'm a bit lazy, LOL). It's all just S=R*(theta) anyway...

Thanks for the feedback-I guess I'll stop being lazy and find a way to make it happen...


Sean
 
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jking said:
You shouldn't have any trouble adding the other numbers. Sometimes it doesn't change it on the tape until you click on something else, like the turns setting or just hitting enter. Then the tape will update. The bad part about it, say from 35-50 the pellet is flying fast enough and flat enough that the turret doesn't have to be adjusted much but it also clumps those yardages close together. The faster the speed the more clumped up they are. I'm still learning too. Just put the range you want in and don't worry about the zeroing value. It would probably help to to go ahead and put all the info in correctly on the Hawke main page because a few of the those value really effect the tape appearance. (velocity,scope height, and scope magnification). Also when you trim the ends off, the last lines on each end need to stay. If you measure the turret diameter correctly they should touch perfectly end to end when you put them on the turret. I also learned later on in my Chairgun schooling that you can right click on the data blocks and it'll give you some options of what you can select. Example is the "Clicks/MOA" box. It'll list your options. Here's another reference look.
Jimmy
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Yes, I know this has been a post in the distant past. I have searched high and low for the kind of knowledge you have posted here. Thank you so much jking. I have a few questions though, but I guess will not be answered no more.. so ..my kind regards to every one.
 
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