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And side by side with the Crosman 160 after mounting the Optima scope on it the Striker came with.
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Well, they must've been overly generous with assembly lubes? After cleaning the barrel with patches moistened with Rem-Oil & firing Striker once with Crosman PHP's, the rifle was loud & kicked fairly hard. Ran another patch through it @ GTA member's insistence, & found that it definitely had detonated. Shot another CPHP through it after that, & it was a little less loud & didn't kick quite as hard. I'll just have to put several rounds through it till it calms down to normal & starts to settle in.
First bore cleaning patches, using Umarex cleaning kit; Patch after detonation;
I've since gotten a 26" Dewey nylon coated SS cleaning rod in .17/.177 caliber with ball bearing handle & spear tip jag. Seen here with patches from Winchester's first bore cleaning;
First bore cleaning patches, using Umarex cleaning kit; Patch after detonation;
I've since gotten a 26" Dewey nylon coated SS cleaning rod in .17/.177 caliber with ball bearing handle & spear tip jag. Seen here with patches from Winchester's first bore cleaning;
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Unionrdr,
That view through the scope near the end of the video was discouraging. If you felt the same way let me assure you it was not your imagination. Not sure how many different modern scopes you have tried or used, but from what I could see, that scope looks typical of some of the worst junk scopes available, which are commonly found on package deals with budget airgun/scope combos. My guess is they half-way expect you to toss it in favor of the iron sights, and go back to the retailer for a better scope as you learn/decide to explore options.
If you find that the rifle shows promise with open sights, yet shoots poorly with the scope, don't hesitate upgrading the glass down the road. There are many options, some good some bad, the main thing to shop for is one that is rated for a springer.
Thanks for taking the time to make a video. Next time tell us more about how the thing performs... easier said than done obviously, since your neighborhood rules and restrictions appear to be draconian at best. Maybe you could set up an indoor range with a pellet trap and a few pieces of plywood as an emergency backer in case you miss the trap. Either way hope you manage to get some enjoyment out of it.
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D'oh!! Just realized you DID uprgrade the scope with the Hammers. Hopefully my perception of it having a poor field of view was more the camera's shortcoming than how the view actually looks through the scope when shouldered.
That view through the scope near the end of the video was discouraging. If you felt the same way let me assure you it was not your imagination. Not sure how many different modern scopes you have tried or used, but from what I could see, that scope looks typical of some of the worst junk scopes available, which are commonly found on package deals with budget airgun/scope combos. My guess is they half-way expect you to toss it in favor of the iron sights, and go back to the retailer for a better scope as you learn/decide to explore options.
If you find that the rifle shows promise with open sights, yet shoots poorly with the scope, don't hesitate upgrading the glass down the road. There are many options, some good some bad, the main thing to shop for is one that is rated for a springer.
Thanks for taking the time to make a video. Next time tell us more about how the thing performs... easier said than done obviously, since your neighborhood rules and restrictions appear to be draconian at best. Maybe you could set up an indoor range with a pellet trap and a few pieces of plywood as an emergency backer in case you miss the trap. Either way hope you manage to get some enjoyment out of it.
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D'oh!! Just realized you DID uprgrade the scope with the Hammers. Hopefully my perception of it having a poor field of view was more the camera's shortcoming than how the view actually looks through the scope when shouldered.
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BTW it is possible that traces of the Rem Oil was responsible for the dieseling/detonation. Not sure, just thinking out loud.
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Definitely detonation. Could be from excess lube in gas valve, etc during assembly? My thoughts anyway. Idk for sure if it was too much assembly lubes or the Rem-Oil, but I ran dry patches through the barrel to clean out excess oil before firing. I'm sure it was just me & the camera not getting on well being responsible for the bad scope view. Was just giving it a try at that point in order to show the standard mildot reticle. And it is indeed the Hammers 3-9x32AO scope with 4-bolt mounting rail on the Hatsan at present.
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Here's a shot I took comparing all three rifles to each other with the Hatsan center. Crosman 160 is Co2, the other two are springer's, obviously.
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Just got around to trying out the two gun case I got for Christmas today. The Crosman 160 & Hatsan Striker fit snugly, albeit barely. Case turns out to be an inch too short for the Winchester 1400cs though.
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And that Gun Hub indoor range opened, at 3953 Colorado Avenue, here in Sheffield Village. PH# 440-654-2404. It's around a country block from me, so it's close. I'm still gathering the other stuff I'll need to go shooting. Also got a windfall to look for 90's F-150, since I need a new vehicle anyway.
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And that Gun Hub indoor range opened, at 3953 Colorado Avenue, here in Sheffield Village. PH# 440-654-2404. It's around a country block from me, so it's close. I'm still gathering the other stuff I'll need to go shooting. Also got a windfall to look for 90's F-150, since I need a new vehicle anyway.
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Well, I got to the range a lil while ago, but only shot the Striker here to try & zero the scope. Only had padded bar stools to sit on. And the bench was plastic, & only about 11" wide. So no bench bags. Made my 2nd lumbar disc hurt, so arms shook. Found armory hold was steadier closer to the end of the forestock than close to trigger loop. Got off about 30 shots, trying breathing, etc to steady myself without BR bags. Besides not having done any serious shooting in years. Couldn't use chronograph, as nothing in front of firing line allowed. Dang pistol shooters ejecting cases all over creation. And the guy with the AR had shock waves bouncing my ribs. Here's the target I stuck on one of theres to hang it for my 1st efforts. Started lower left going to upper right as I adjusted scope @ 20-22 yards;
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I almost went to a gun range one time with my pellet rifle, then common sense kicked in and told me.....I will never be comfortable enough with the noise and nerves of people being around to get my best results.
I am about to get a Nitro Venom Dusk in 177 Cal, its been a while since I got a new pellet slinger. Kinda got into some other hobbies that took up my time. I loved my Nitro Venom Dusk 22 so much I felt it deserved a 17 partner!
I am about to get a Nitro Venom Dusk in 177 Cal, its been a while since I got a new pellet slinger. Kinda got into some other hobbies that took up my time. I loved my Nitro Venom Dusk 22 so much I felt it deserved a 17 partner!
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The pistols don't bug me as much as that narrow plastic bench does. Being 42" high, I'll need my shoulder at some 50" to use the front bench bag. So I'll have to find a lightweight, adjustable chair or stool to sit on to get everything lined up right.
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Okay, even though I have another snafu with the Crosman 160, I got some chronograph numbers on the Striker 1000x .22 yesterday with three different pellets. Here's the numbers from 6 shots in each group in FPS;
Crosman PHP, 14.3gr RWS Superpoint Extra, 14.5gr H&N Baracuda Green (domed point), 12.65gr
766 694 864
753 689 870
745 719 867
739 692 865
736 700 865
732 703 869
Average velocity of six shots-
745.16FPS 699.5FPS 866.67FPS
It seems to me that Hatsan had to have used about a 13gr pellet to get the advertised 800FPS? After using the CPHP's at the range on the shown target, it'll be interesting to see how the Baracuda greens do? They certainly are very consistent by the velocities I got. I also weighed the rifles recently in a new Youtube video. It actually weighs 8lbs, 6.95ozs.
Crosman PHP, 14.3gr RWS Superpoint Extra, 14.5gr H&N Baracuda Green (domed point), 12.65gr
766 694 864
753 689 870
745 719 867
739 692 865
736 700 865
732 703 869
Average velocity of six shots-
745.16FPS 699.5FPS 866.67FPS
It seems to me that Hatsan had to have used about a 13gr pellet to get the advertised 800FPS? After using the CPHP's at the range on the shown target, it'll be interesting to see how the Baracuda greens do? They certainly are very consistent by the velocities I got. I also weighed the rifles recently in a new Youtube video. It actually weighs 8lbs, 6.95ozs.
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Those are handsome rifles and that sounds like a great deal on the Hatsan. Thanks for the in depth look at it and the chrono numbers!
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Glad you enjoyed it! I'm going to try out the H&N Baracuda Greens at the range next chance I get. Startin' all this doctor stuff for my left hip surgery Thursday. Surgery 3/20. So I'll go shootin' again after I see if new valve assembly fixes Crosman 160 to shoot it & chrono as well.
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Okay, shot another video yesterday I call " Redo", since I had found just how dirty the barrels were on all three air rifles. So the numbers weren't quite what they should've been. So I shot the pellets through the Hatsan Striker 1000x .22 a second time after cleaning it. This rather long video is the result. Also had a problem with the scope I fixed and described as well.
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