FX accuracy

yeagger · Mar 16, 2018

So with all the new FX guns is the dreamline going to be as accurate as the crown or impact or you just going to have to spend that much money to get the dream line as accurate as the impact. Is the Wildcat MK2 any less accurate than the impact? Enquiring Minds need to know.

Macros · Mar 17, 2018

Good question. At the price the Dreamline is supposedly coming in at, the impact and crown etc may become a tough sell unless they offer something significantly better.

hawkeye69 · Mar 17, 2018

I believe most Crown and Impact buyers are looking for the adjustability they offer. I don't see that on the Dreamline.

Kaan · Mar 18, 2018

"hawkeye69"I believe most Crown and Impact buyers are looking for the adjustability they offer. I don't see that on the Dreamline.

To me it looks like the adjustability is practically identical to the Crown. Do you know something i don't know?

hawkeye69 · Mar 18, 2018

"Kaan"

"hawkeye69"I believe most Crown and Impact buyers are looking for the adjustability they offer. I don't see that on the Dreamline.

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To me it looks like the adjustability is practically identical to the Crown. Do you know something i don't know?

My mistake...for some reason I was thinking of the new Brocock Commander when I posted. Duh!

NL-Law · Mar 18, 2018

I am interested in seeing if FX can bring the quality of the Crown and Impact into a $1K Gun. If they can, it will change the market dramatically.

ashes5 · Mar 19, 2018

1. Is the DreamLine a 1000.00 without the stock and the price goes up from there depending on the stock you want?
2. Does the barrel choices increase the price from the 1000.00 depending on the barrel you want?
Almost like buying a Iphone. you put up all the money for the latest and greatest (Crown or Impact) and next week they come out with another latest and greatest for a lot less. I still have a bottle and the Dreamline doesn't.

Glem.Chally · Mar 20, 2018

I think the base price would be synthetic stock in bullpup/sporter etc with a smooth twist.

Want an x-barrel or walnut stock for sporter it'll be more.

Just what I think, even so it's fair I'd say.

yeagger · Mar 22, 2018

So what is the difference between a wildcat MK2 and the impact?

Saltlake58 · Mar 24, 2018

The Impact has three types of settings. Wildcat MK2 doesn't have any as far as I know. It's all fixed at the factory. You can adjust the trigger but that's about all, so you are using a gun designed and adjusted for the JSB pellet in whatever caliber.

The Impact has hammer, transfer port, and if you really want to, adjust the regulator.

I also believe (though not sure) that while you can change barrel liners in the X system on the Wildcat, you can't change calibers like the Impact.

Glem.Chally · Mar 24, 2018

"Saltlake58"The Impact has three types of settings. Wildcat MK2 doesn't have any as far as I know. It's all fixed at the factory. You can adjust the trigger but that's about all, so you are using a gun designed and adjusted for the JSB pellet in whatever caliber.
The Impact has hammer, transfer port, and if you really want to, adjust the regulator.
I also believe (though not sure) that while you can change barrel liners in the X system on the Wildcat, you can't change calibers like the Impact.

I think on the wildcat you can adjust the hammer spring too, same thing the crown does without an external knob. Chuck was able to get almost 60fpe with his with just adjustments if I'm not mistaken.

You can change reg and hammer spring tension but yeah I think you can't adjust valving. You can also probably change calibers using fx parts as they don't use a different breech block for the .177 than a .25. Might not be as straight forward and take a bit longer but most likely very possible. I'm in the process of doing the same with a Royale that "doesn't have switchable calibers".

Saltlake58 · Mar 24, 2018

Agreed you can adjust a wildcat if you really want to, but with the Impact, it's external dials and repeatable. Much more limited capabilities on the Wildcat. So, while you can adjust the Wildcat, it's not be design.

Glem.Chally · Mar 24, 2018

Yeah not designed to be as simple, counting turns on an HST is another method of repeatability. Turning the power wheel is literally adjusting the HST preload the same thing the hex nut does on a Wildcat, Streamline, Royale, Boss, Bobcat etc. I don't own an Impact but I can adjust the FPS to exactly where I want then change it to a 500 FPS difference in 2 minutes, then go back to exactly where I was by counting turns on the HST. That is repeatability just as a clicky dial is, not trying to be argumentative but that is a fact.

The non externally adjustable models probably have a wider range of HST adjustment.

Edit: Just timed myself going from 14FPE(backyard ratting) to 58 FPE in 45 seconds from shoot ready to shoot ready.

Saltlake58 · Mar 25, 2018

No argument taken, but that was one thing that had to be designed into the Impact that the Wildcat didn't have, knobs. In the Impact, the ability to move from one setting to another is literally seconds, as once you know the settings, just dial in two knobs. No wrenches required.

Just one of the design differences that makes the Impact easier to use, but a bit more expensive at the same time. That design with knobs took extra design effort and machining to make work. More money.

Now, correct me on this one. Do the Wildcat and Impact use a trigger linkage to the from the trigger to the sear? I thought the Impact did not, hooked directly to the sear midpoint in the gun where the Wildcat may (I do NOT know for sure on this one) use a linkage from the trigger to sear. Can you validate that one on the Wildcat? If so, that'd be another difference that costs more on the Impact.

By the way, I'm really torn on my next gun. Saving for a Crown or Impact, but the Wildcat is so tempting. At the $1300 price point, it is a fantastic value for FX. One of the big problems in this market is that we do so much by hearsay and online pictures.

It seems so weird, I've never held a Wildcat, but would consider buying one sight unseen. I'd never buy a car that way.

Glem.Chally · Mar 25, 2018

Yeah some good points there Saltlake, as far as the sear mechanism I'm not sure either. I still want a Crown down the road and it seems like all Wildcat owners are VERY happy with their rifles.

Saltlake58 · Mar 25, 2018

Yeah, I'm really torn, and with the new Dreamline coming out, really torn. Luckily, won't have the money for a few months, and that'll give me time to sweat out a decision

Glem.Chally · Mar 25, 2018

I think the impact is better looking than the dreamline "impact" same for the wildcat looking one. The field target model looks great though I think, and the sporter stock one doesn't look too bad either.

PerkyVal · Mar 25, 2018

"Saltlake58"No argument taken, but that was one thing that had to be designed into the Impact that the Wildcat didn't have, knobs. In the Impact, the ability to move from one setting to another is literally seconds, as once you know the settings, just dial in two knobs. No wrenches required.
Just one of the design differences that makes the Impact easier to use, but a bit more expensive at the same time. That design with knobs took extra design effort and machining to make work. More money.
Now, correct me on this one. Do the Wildcat and Impact use a trigger linkage to the from the trigger to the sear? I thought the Impact did not, hooked directly to the sear midpoint in the gun where the Wildcat may (I do NOT know for sure on this one) use a linkage from the trigger to sear. Can you validate that one on the Wildcat? If so, that'd be another difference that costs more on the Impact.
By the way, I'm really torn on my next gun. Saving for a Crown or Impact, but the Wildcat is so tempting. At the $1300 price point, it is a fantastic value for FX. One of the big problems in this market is that we do so much by hearsay and online pictures.
It seems so weird, I've never held a Wildcat, but would consider buying one sight unseen. I'd never buy a car that way.

I know the Impact doesn't use linkage, the Wildcat does, but very good if I understand correctly

Saltlake58 · Mar 25, 2018

I'd agree on the initial "Minimalist" version, for sure. The sporter and Bull Pups look good, but the Field Target could be interesting.

Mrshosted · Mar 25, 2018

"Saltlake58"No argument taken, but that was one thing that had to be designed into the Impact that the Wildcat didn't have, knobs. In the Impact, the ability to move from one setting to another is literally seconds, as once you know the settings, just dial in two knobs. No wrenches required.
Just one of the design differences that makes the Impact easier to use, but a bit more expensive at the same time. That design with knobs took extra design effort and machining to make work. More money.
Now, correct me on this one. Do the Wildcat and Impact use a trigger linkage to the from the trigger to the sear? I thought the Impact did not, hooked directly to the sear midpoint in the gun where the Wildcat may (I do NOT know for sure on this one) use a linkage from the trigger to sear. Can you validate that one on the Wildcat? If so, that'd be another difference that costs more on the Impact.
By the way, I'm really torn on my next gun. Saving for a Crown or Impact, but the Wildcat is so tempting. At the $1300 price point, it is a fantastic value for FX. One of the big problems in this market is that we do so much by hearsay and online pictures.
It seems so weird, I've never held a Wildcat, but would consider buying one sight unseen. I'd never buy a car that way.

Run down to Utah air guns, they let you shoot both of them, and any other gun. They gone in back and got the boss persona gun for me to try .

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