Frontier or Talos

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I don't think your comparison is fair as both scopes are vastly different in price and functionality. 

The Frontier is significantly higher in price and is a 2nd focal plane scope. Assuming that you're looking at the TMX reticle. The one thing that has put me off in owning another Hawke scope is their turrets are MOA however the reticle is MIL. It doesn't make a lot of sense for both not to match. It probably won't matter much since the Frontier has capped turrets and if you memorize your holdovers.

http://www.hawkeoptics.com/frontier-30-sf-25-15x50-tmx.html

On the other hand the Athlon Talos BTR is half the price and is 1st focal plane.

http://athlonoptics.com/product/talos-btr-4-14x44-aplr-ffp-ir-mil/

I've personally used the Talos BTR and it's great "for the price". Glass is good and the reticle is nicely laid out. Athlon has some of the most airgun friendly reticles in my opinion. If I had to choose, I would go with the Talos BTR. It's a tad shorter (same weight) with a better reticle and matching turrets but the most important factor is it's MUCH more affordable given your two choices. I don't see the added value of the Frontier vs Talos even if you can live with the non-match turrets and reticle.
 
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For hunting I'd go with the Talos or Primary Arms 4-14x44 both FFP mil mil scopes that are great for the price and more than clear enough for any distance you could use an air gun at. There is also the Athlon Argos if you want more power. For hunting though there isn't much use for anything higher power than the Argos. 

I bought both the PA and Talos and kept the the PA because it's a little lighter and less expensive if you don't want an illuminated reticle. Otherwise they are about the same.

If you are going to spend $600-$700 on the Frontier, there is a longer list of scopes to look at and my experience has been that there is almost always a better scope for the money than any given Hawke model. 

How much are you looking to spend?
 
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"Raptaman"I was looking at spending $600-$700. I like the idea of the FFP so you don't have to keep calculating hold over etc, which is easier for quick shots
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I just ordered a Weaver tactical 4-20x50 FFP mil dot. You should be able to find one of those for $700. It's in a different league to the Athlon Argos or Talos.

last time I looked there was one on EBay going for $720 (used) and a 3-15x50ffp mil dot for $650 (new)
 
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"Raptaman"Seems that Athlon was reading my mind. They have come out with the Ares 2-15x50 which is what I was looking for and you can use the eagle vision scope cam on it.
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I was looking at that but couldn't find anywhere that had one in stock (or even listed it for sale). 

My $700 would still go on the Weaver 4-20x50. After (far too much) research, I am fairly convinced that there is no better air gun scope for around $700 or less. 
 
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"zebra"
"Raptaman"Seems that Athlon was reading my mind. They have come out with the Ares 2-15x50 which is what I was looking for and you can use the eagle vision scope cam on it.
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I was looking at that but couldn't find anywhere that had one in stock (or even listed it for sale). 

My $700 would still go on the Weaver 4-20x50. After (far too much) research, I am fairly convinced that there is no better air gun scope for around $700 or less.
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Was that used? because im looking at the weaver but the pricetag says 1220 euros >.<.

the hawke frontier is around 700.
 
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"Deja"
"zebra"
"Raptaman"Seems that Athlon was reading my mind. They have come out with the Ares 2-15x50 which is what I was looking for and you can use the eagle vision scope cam on it.
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I was looking at that but couldn't find anywhere that had one in stock (or even listed it for sale). 

My $700 would still go on the Weaver 4-20x50. After (far too much) research, I am fairly convinced that there is no better air gun scope for around $700 or less.
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Was that used? because im looking at the weaver but the pricetag says 1220 euros >.<.

the hawke frontier is around 700.
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No. It's on sale at Natchez new for $700 right now and $570 for the 3-15. 
 
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"senglish011"Any updates on that Weaver Tactical? How low will it focus?
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Yes, I have started writing up a review on it but the highlights are:

The side focus wheel goes down to 25 yards but it can be used closer on the lower power settings.

It is crystal clear if I use it in the garden directly below my bedroom window at 4-6x. I can easily read the numbers on my chronograph at 10 yards. At 15-20 yards, I can even go up a few power settings but that would never be needed. 6x is more than enough for any target at 15 yards with a scope this clear. 

While It can easily be used at PCP gun distances, if you are looking for a scope for a 10m gun, or you only plink in your basement, this scope would be a waste. 

The glass is nice (comparable to a Leupold MK4). I can see a lot of detail that I couldn't on my Primary Arms, Clearidge and Hawke scopes. I'm finding this to be quite helpful as I live in NY and most of the places I hunt in have thick woods where it is easy to lose a squirrel as it camouflages itself in the branches. 

I notice the biggest difference when I aim out passed 60 yards. On most of my other scopes, it's hard to see the exact poi on a dark tree at 90 yards. I can see the pellet holes very clearly with this scope. It makes mapping the trajectory very easy.

I bought it to be a multi-purpose scope (i.e. Good for hunting, plinking and target shooting). It's still early days but so far I am happy with it in all three roles on the air rifle it's mounted on. 

The turrets are nice. I'm not usually a turret user because many of my other scopes don't have particularly nice ones, so there was no temptation. I've started dialing in my corrections with the Weaver because the level of precision it allows is making it fun. I thought 1/10 mil clicks might be overkill on a PCP gun but, at 100 yards, it makes a difference.

If I was buying it again, I probably would have saved $130 and gone with the 3-15 for $570 (on sale at Natchez). I'm not sure there is any distance that would require more than 15x on a PCP rifle with glass like that. Maybe I'll feel differently if I ever compete in a match. 

As with anything, it's not perfect. If I go looking for stuff to grumble about, I can find it. For example, it bugs me that it doesn't come with any lens cap, so I have to buy that separately. There is a little bit of play in the turrets when they are in their locked position. This doesn't effect the functionality or how they feel when on use, or cause any shift but... if I am looking for negatives, it would be better if there was no play. 

The outer tube is anodized. I hate anodized. It scratches and marks as soon as you mount it and there is no way for me to repair the scratches at home.

Also, the reticle is very thin. A lot of people will like that. On an FFP scope, it makes it so that it doesn't become thick even on 20x but, for me, I think I would prefer it to be a touch thicker. I think that's because I'm in New York looking at a lot of thick wooded areas. 

I knew about bout all those things before I bought it and bought it anyway so that shows how minor they are. I haven't had any nasty surprises yet. 
 
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