EBR and FX air rifles
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I think FX is very appreciative of the people who use their rifles and does what ever is needed to keep them happy. The same way the NASCAR drivers are supported for using the suppliers products. What surprises me the most is why the don’t also supply them with outfits full of their logos. There is nothing wrong with this as I think many companies do this as part of their marketing campaign. I will admit I purchased a FX rifle that was being highly praised by a few of the YouTube hawkers they seem to unofficially sponsor. But this is part of doing business and you must look at the promoters carefully and decide for yourself who to believe.
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there are many manufacturers, but in the US or on certain forums... to me it seems just few brands exist.
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One advantage that has been mentioned by both Ted last year and Matt this year is the fact they have a magazine to shoot more shots quickly in a moment of consistent wind. Seems more of an advantage at 100y where wind has more effect. So they're quicker than the guys single loading the pure BR rifles.
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Yes the mag from side shot gives them 26 in a row. I wonder if they should only allow stock rifles compete or maybe have an separate class for the the non stock guns.
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You mean something like a production class and open/modified class? How would you be able to tell? A few of the top shooters got guns tuned by FX from the factory to shoot with. Would you consider these a production gun as they came from the factory or a modified gun as they are not offered to the public for retail sale? One must remember that the EBR is an industry showcase event sponsored by AOA and FX. There is no sanctioning of the event by any official shooting bodies so what rules are there to follow other than the ones made up by AOA.
Edited for terrible grammar. Also I want to clarify I'm not bashing AOA or FX. As a matter of fact AOA was a great sponsor for this years Bench Rest(donations) and recent Field Target Nationals. I'm simply trying to point out that it's not surprising to see their best selling brand at their premiere event over any others. No conspiracy theories involved.
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In my opinion, the FX rifles are so prevalent because they perform well in so many areas. What I mean by this is, they are suited for competition, hunting, plinking, etc. For example... You wouldn't take a Thomas rifle hunting. It's not designed for that and would be uncomfortable. I'm not at all suggesting it wouldn't put the game animal down, but it just doesn't fit in the hunting scenario. RAW reportedly makes a very accurate rifle. But I also hear that they can be on the heavy side. So, there's a rifle that would shoot very well in comp, and still be capable of going out into the field. Of course you could enjoy plinking with either of those but, if you think about it, would you really want to? And, if you did, would it really be as enjoyable?
Again, this is just my opinion on it... FX seems to bridge the gap by putting out rifles that "fit" well in many areas, including competition. My own personal R400 is a perfect example of a rifle that I used for hunting and plinking (for joy) over the Summer and then packed up to compete with at EBR without making any changes other than the scope. The Impact is another example of a rifle that can be used successfully in many ways. Obviously, competition is one. It's short frame and power/caliber changing makes it very capable in the field. And, in quite the opposite configuration, it can be used for plinking smiles onto faces. I find the Wildcat to fall in this category as well with the additional benefit of being light weight and easy to load. Would a Cricket fall into this category? Yeah, probably. And, I've seen them at EBR. Edgun? Yup, I've seen them too. Air Arms? Yup, brought one years ago. I keep coming back to FX because their rifles do everything I want them to and they continuously do it well.
True, the manufacturers want a good showing and also want to try out new concepts and want to see their name all over the place. Lending a rifle(s) to a good shooter(s) to compete with increases your chances of getting your name to place well in the event. Makes perfect sense. But, that doesn't explain all the shooters that show up there. I think the numbers of shooters in that category makes up a very small number in the whole event.
Anyway... That's my take on it.
Cheers!
Tom
Again, this is just my opinion on it... FX seems to bridge the gap by putting out rifles that "fit" well in many areas, including competition. My own personal R400 is a perfect example of a rifle that I used for hunting and plinking (for joy) over the Summer and then packed up to compete with at EBR without making any changes other than the scope. The Impact is another example of a rifle that can be used successfully in many ways. Obviously, competition is one. It's short frame and power/caliber changing makes it very capable in the field. And, in quite the opposite configuration, it can be used for plinking smiles onto faces. I find the Wildcat to fall in this category as well with the additional benefit of being light weight and easy to load. Would a Cricket fall into this category? Yeah, probably. And, I've seen them at EBR. Edgun? Yup, I've seen them too. Air Arms? Yup, brought one years ago. I keep coming back to FX because their rifles do everything I want them to and they continuously do it well.
True, the manufacturers want a good showing and also want to try out new concepts and want to see their name all over the place. Lending a rifle(s) to a good shooter(s) to compete with increases your chances of getting your name to place well in the event. Makes perfect sense. But, that doesn't explain all the shooters that show up there. I think the numbers of shooters in that category makes up a very small number in the whole event.
Anyway... That's my take on it.
Cheers!
Tom
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The way it is does promote innovation. I'd like to see other teams/brands get fired up a bit and really throw some $ resources at trying to win.
The more traction the event gets the more publicity it gets hopefully that will happen.
It could be more about teams and brands sort of like F1. The teams try to get the best shooter behind there guns.
Its not just about the best shot.
It would still create interest in the more traditional type of BR competition. It has done that for me. Although I haven't done it yet I'd like to go to an actual shoot and see what goes on.
The more traction the event gets the more publicity it gets hopefully that will happen.
It could be more about teams and brands sort of like F1. The teams try to get the best shooter behind there guns.
Its not just about the best shot.
It would still create interest in the more traditional type of BR competition. It has done that for me. Although I haven't done it yet I'd like to go to an actual shoot and see what goes on.
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I don’t think if a gun is professionally tuned or the standard components are altered but if Fx had different components in the guns the loan to the boys I don’t think it’s right for example if they gave the barrel to people to use in their impacts when they are not on the market yet.
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Let Daystate send a team of 6 shooters with factory prepared guns and try and take the title off FX.
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The fact someone may turn up with something new different innovative that gives them an advantage is exactly what seperates this from other competitions.
It isn't an Olympic discipline trying to creat a level playing field to find the best shooter.
We have that already.
It isn't an Olympic discipline trying to creat a level playing field to find the best shooter.
We have that already.
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I have no problem with people being inventive but I think there should be a separate class for that. If it wasn’t for the wind the same people would win every year. When I used to compete in the service we were given a rifle 30 minutes before the competition got 5 shots to sight it in and then we had some fun.
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i remember 2 years ago TED said in a vid the english invasion was coming ,,,he went on to say DAYSTATE was gonna make a big push to make a mark ,,still waiting ,oh well ,,right now its AOA and FX there in bed together,, no problems with that,, only the two 8% increases we seen this year for FX sux ,,,wheres DAYSTATE AIR ARMS until the pony up the dough and make a big show FX AND AOA will continue there reign
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Yep until they see a financial benefit from them winning it won't happen. Let the event grow and let the "prize" get bigger.
Like the "America's Cup" we Australian's took from you
Like the "America's Cup" we Australian's took from you
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Not that there is anything wrong with it but EBR is a AOA promotion and part of their marketing program they are spending a lot of money to run EBR so I’m not surprised it favors their suppliers. But as long as it open to all commers I think it is a good thing for the sport. I hope to attend in the future. I won’t compete unless I get a tricked out loaner.
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I've been thinking of putting together a .25 Marauder for the occasion. It will most certainly not be a stock gun. I'm not set on the idea though.
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The purest's have to let is comp go. The more you make it "about the gun" the more pressure you put on manufacturers to get involved.
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It would be great if all the manufacturers could send there dream team then it will be a true World Series of air rifles. But don’t do away with the competition by the independent shooters from all over who are really enjoying themselves. Maybe get Pyramid involved they could have the eastern competition and AOA the west just so more of us could attend. Make international by having regionals in parts of the world where air rifles are in use. I know Pyramid does something but it doesn’t seem to be as popular.
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