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Kevin M. Hunter.
Where does one sign up or interview for such a position. This gulf war veteran would love to give it a shot n see if I have what it takes to be a co-host.
I've been into pellet rifle hunting since i was a child n well.....I'm not a kid anymore an have been in big bore pcp shooting n hunting for a number of years and would love the opportunity to be apart of this team.
 
---" puertorico:
"You guys are always welcome to travel 1500 miles south east of Florida to puerto rico and hunt invasive iguanas. No license needed."


In the past you didn't need a license or permit to hunt iguanas in Puerto Rico, but now you need. The permit is granted by the PR DNR and is valid for one year ($25.00). The permit is known as "Permiso para el Control Poblacional de Animales Invasores (Iguana iguana)". All you need to do is complete a form and show evidence of your knowledge/experience with arms, such as a active hunting or target shooting license. If you don't have any license, then you have to take a short course/training to get a certificate. The permit is valid to hunt iguanas in private property (with owner's consent, of course) and natural reserves (not in State Forests).
 
No problem Andy. I know what you mean. Unfortunately, a number of government officials don't know their stuff well enough. But the fact is that you need a permit. For your own convenience, it is better to get it. See incise 4) here: 
http://drna.pr.gov/historico/oficinas/arn/recursosvivientes/negociado-de-pesca-y-vida-silvestre/division-de-recursos-terrestres-1/preguntas-frecuentes-sobre-la-iguana-verde-o-gallina-de-palo-en-puerto-rico/#P4

4) ¿Puedo dispararle a una iguana en mi propiedad? En Puerto Rico, no es legal disparar armas de fuego o rifles neumáticos fuera de un polígono de tiro a menos que se esté cazando y se tenga permiso o licencia del DRNA para eso. Si le disparas a una iguana con cualquiera de estas armas y el animal no mueren de inmediato, también puedes ser acusado por crueldad hacia los animales (ver Ley Núm. 154 del año 2008 o Ley para el Bienestar y la Protección de los Animales: http://www.lexjuris.com/lexlex/Leyes2008/lexl2008154.htm).

FYI,

http://drna.pr.gov/historico/oficinas/arn/recursosvivientes/negociado-de-pesca-y-vida-silvestre/division-de-recursos-terrestres-1/plan-para-el-control-de-la-iguana-verde-green-iguana-control-plan
 
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For non-Spanish speakers, translation of the above key paragraph.

Can I shoot an iguana on my property? In Puerto Rico, it is not legal to shoot firearms or Air rifles outside of a shooting range unless you are hunting and you have permission via a license of the DNER for that activity. If you shoot an iguana with any of these weapons and the animal does not die immediately, you can also be charged for cruelty to animals (see Law Num.....
 
Cilami, 
Last year , as a member of the Farm Snipers Team, we started our venture in PR. Everything by the book as it was a commercial venture. We took Milton Concepcion's (of N.A.T. fame) course on air gun saftey, and got our permits right away. Although I would agree with the statements about the left hand not necessarily know what the right hand is doing, as with any gov't agency, the law is quite clear that you MUST have both in order to be legal. You must also make every effort to retrieve all animals shot and remove them from the area. We were able to go to a lot more remote areas because we had the paperwork to show we were serious about our business and we left the area clean, not just a few guys with guns who want to kill stuff. Can't wait to get back this year!
 
"cilami"
4) ¿Puedo dispararle a una iguana en mi propiedad? En Puerto Rico, no es legal disparar armas de fuego o rifles neumáticos fuera de un polígono de tiro a menos que se esté cazando y se tenga permiso o licencia del DRNA para eso. Si le disparas a una iguana con cualquiera de estas armas y el animal no mueren de inmediato, también puedes ser acusado por crueldad hacia los animales (ver Ley Núm. 154 del año 2008 o Ley para el Bienestar y la Protección de los Animales: http://www.lexjuris.com/lexlex/Leyes2008/lexl2008154.htm).

FYI,

Not everything written on the Internet is true.
I wanted to ask, whoever wrote that DRNA statement that you cannot shot an airgun out of a range, what was his source of infprmation because he/she is WRONG.
Puerto Rico Law is clear that pneumatic guns are ruled by the Federal law and Federal law is clear that they are not firearms
 
deliminator,

I agree with almost all what you said in the post above. However, I am not a lawyer but, please check the link below to Ley 404 (Ley de Armas de PR). Specifically, read the definition of Arma and article 5.15, incises A, B and C. I was told that article 5.15 is the legal base for the statement that appears in the PR DNR page. I copy/paste the relevant parts:http://www2.pr.gov/ogp/Bvirtual/test2/PDF/Justicia/404-2000/404-2000.pdf “Ley de Armas de Puerto Rico” Ley Núm. 404 de 11 de Septiembre de 2000, según enmendada Definiciones...(c) “Arma” — Se entenderá como toda arma de fuego, arma blanca o cualquier otro tipo de arma, independientemente de su denominación Artículo 5.15. — Disparar o Apuntar Armas. (25 L.P.R.A. § 458n) (A) Incurrirá en delito grave toda persona que, salvo en casos de defensa propia o de terceros o de actuaciones en el desempeño de funciones oficiales o de actividades legítimas de deportes, incluida la caza, o del ejercicio de la práctica de tiro en un club de tiro autorizado: (1) voluntariamente dispare cualquier arma en un sitio público o en cualquier otro sitio, aunque no le cause daño a persona alguna, o (2) intencionalmente, aunque sin malicia, apunte hacia alguna persona con un arma, aunque no le cause daño a persona alguna.La pena de reclusión por la comisión de los delitos descritos en los incisos (1) y (2) anteriores, será por un término fijo de cinco (5) años.

In Spanish: http://www2.pr.gov/ogp/Bvirtual/test2/PDF/Justicia/404-2000/404-2000.pdf (this is the official version)
English version: http://www.leydearmas.com/docs/law404-weapons.pdf (this is a translation, not official. See pages 39 and 40).
 
"cilami"deliminator,

I agree with almost all what you said in the post above. However, I am not a lawyer but, please check the link below to Ley 404 (Ley de Armas de PR). Specifically, read the definition of Arma and article 5.15, incises A, B and C. I was told that article 5.15 is the legal base for the statement that appears in the PR DNR page. I copy/paste the relevant parts:http://www2.pr.gov/ogp/Bvirtual/test2/PDF/Justicia/404-2000/404-2000.pdf “Ley de Armas de Puerto Rico” Ley Núm. 404 de 11 de Septiembre de 2000, según enmendada Definiciones...(c) “Arma” — Se entenderá como toda arma de fuego, arma blanca o cualquier otro tipo de arma, independientemente de su denominación Artículo 5.15. — Disparar o Apuntar Armas. (25 L.P.R.A. § 458n) (A) Incurrirá en delito grave toda persona que, salvo en casos de defensa propia o de terceros o de actuaciones en el desempeño de funciones oficiales o de actividades legítimas de deportes, incluida la caza, o del ejercicio de la práctica de tiro en un club de tiro autorizado: (1) voluntariamente dispare cualquier arma en un sitio público o en cualquier otro sitio, aunque no le cause daño a persona alguna, o (2) intencionalmente, aunque sin malicia, apunte hacia alguna persona con un arma, aunque no le cause daño a persona alguna.La pena de reclusión por la comisión de los delitos descritos en los incisos (1) y (2) anteriores, será por un término fijo de cinco (5) años.

In Spanish: http://www2.pr.gov/ogp/Bvirtual/test2/PDF/Justicia/404-2000/404-2000.pdf (this is the official version)
English version: http://www.leydearmas.com/docs/law404-weapons.pdf (this is a translation, not official. See pages 39 and 40).


Not a lawyer too but anything can happen with an inept or corrupt official say lawyer, policeman or a judge.
When I go out to infringe our law with my air guns I carry in my backpack our law and the Federal one in print.
First let consider the intention of the law maker in the Article 7.02 – Air guns. It says (my translation) “By United States Congress disposition Title 15 U.S.C.A. §5001 supersedes the area to legislate about air guns in Puerto Rico and because of that it cannot be prohibited its sales and USE (uppercase by me) but to minors under the age of 18”.
Now my opinion is that this supersede anything mentioned in our law because the intention of the law maker was that.
Now, can you imagine trying to enforce that every kid or adult must fire the hundredths of thousands air guns in our possession in a range?
Now my rant in case any DRNA bureaucrat read this:
They want to charge $25 for what? They should pay us because we are eliminating an invasive species that is destroying roads, our plants, other animals habitat, causing problems at the airport, offices (don’t ask), warehouses, car accidents and my wife screaming because of them. J
Do you know how much is the fine for shooting Green Iguanas without the license? What if I use the machete instead of the air gun? Or with a broom? If my dog (I don’t have one) or cats (neither too) kill them? What I mean here is that is STUPID and unlawful for them to charge to kill something that is a plague. What is next $25 to eliminate cockroaches and mosquitoes? DRNA if you want to charge me $25 to use the state land then is all right with me to pay it.

BTW Tony, if the fine is $25 per iguana you own our goverment $50,000

Do come to Puerto Rico like others said. Lot of places to hunt the iguana plus you are doing us a favor.
 
We worked in close corroboration with the gov't and the DNRA and it doesn't sound like you did your homework. We ,At Farm Sipers, found it quite easy to find out what was required by the DNRA to be legal to hunt iguanas in PR ,as a non resident. You MUST have proof of a gun saftey course and you must have the $25 permit. You can carry what ever you want to , in the way of copied paper work, out in the field. You will get arrested and taken down town if you don't have what they require and don't have the ability to have the Spanish language interpreted for you. Trying to play lawyer in the field is a foolish way to think that you can get by.
 
"E.L.Werner"We worked in close corroboration with the gov't and the DNRA and it doesn't sound like you did your homework. We ,At Farm Sipers, found it quite easy to find out what was required by the DNRA to be legal to hunt iguanas in PR ,as a non resident. You MUST have proof of a gun saftey course and you must have the $25 permit. You can carry what ever you want to , in the way of copied paper work, out in the field. You will get arrested and taken down town if you don't have what they require and don't have the ability to have the Spanish language interpreted for you. Trying to play lawyer in the field is a foolish way to think that you can get by.

Werner, don't confuse my rant for the $25 bribe err permit to kill the iguanas. What I was telling to cilami is that DRNA states in their webpage that we cannot shoot a firearm including airguns in anyplace other than a range even worse in our property. Blatantly false because if I pay $25 to the DRNA I can do it, right ;) . Bravo, they are above the law because they allow me to shoot out of a range. Air guns usage is superseded by the Federal law and you already know what it says.
BTW if they want/can or wish they can FINE me only but if they want to arrest me, ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ. Lawyers have to do a living. Hope that 90% that doesn’t have a permit have a lawyer. I have to find just one local that has the permit. If I was visiting another state I too would be sure to have my nose clean.
Werner a law is not the same as a rule and a regulation. When you paid the $25 permit you abided a DRNA directive by someone that is not a lawmaker nor an elected person.
If there is anything I can do to help when you are in Puerto Rico you are welcome to email me at [email protected]. Keep visiting PR since our economy is in dire straits and every visitor counts. 
 
"E.L.Werner"Deliminator,
Have No idea what you are talking about. We made one phone call and were told where to go. Met with Chief Miller and did what we had to do as per the written law that he showed us. I'm sorry that you had a problem finding out that either you either a) were hunting illegally or b) didn't understand the law. No matter. Now you know.
You can lead the horse to the water but...
Beating the death horse, it is not a law, can you tell us the the number and the article?