I know this is a bit off topic, but I think a lot of it is knowledge vs perception. While it might be perceived that a gunshot death is "quicker" and "less painful", it's not the case in many instances."plinker"We tend to be less lenient because we favor precision. The gory truth is in nature animals are the most brutal. I have a hard time watching some lion kills when the gazelle is crying and the lion is in no hurry to finish the job. I don't condone hunting pigs with dogs. It seems unmercifully brutal. It is however legal where I live. I don't hunt with a bow because it is not humane to me, but that's all my son in law does. He finds it a challenge and thinks high powered rifles are too easy. He is an excellent archer, but he has no issues with a slower kill and tracking. It's just a deer he says. I don't like gray squirrels. To me they are tree rats, but I do want to be efficient killing one. Blood sport is a difficult subject.
"kmd1984"I would like to reply to each post directly, but it will take to much time, so I just sum it up a little.
People and their opinions are pretty stupid. Period. Just because you have the right to have an opinion, doesn't make your opinion a "smart" one. Just like one of my favorite comedians Chris Rock says, "poop, you could drive a car with your feet if you want to. That don't make it a good ****ing idea."
Having said that. How can people say, "Nature is not fair! If nature does it, it is OK for us to do it!" Really?! Well, if that is the case, I guess I can bash your head in and take your wife? Right? Nature does it, so why cant I do it? Or how having your wife start chewing on you right after sex? I see the Black Widow do it...
Get it?!
People need to stop looking at Nature so they can justify their own actions. There is a difference in "natures" you know?! That is why they call it "Human Nature"!
Let animals handle their nature and we handle ours.
Kmd
"T3PRanch"Killing is Killing. Eat what you kill unless it is a non palatable pest species. I don't use dogs, bait, blinds or stands but believe "You hunt your way, I'll hunt mine". No hunter has a right to interfere with another hunter. No non-hunter has a right to interfere with a lawful hunter either. Posting "Look what I can do" videos on YouTube and "Parading" around in public with a kill is what causes the majority of hard feelings and angst of non-hunters for hunters. The hard feelings between hunters for different methods of hunting which a hunter may or may not practice is caused by a propensity of persons to believe that their way is right while all else is wrong rather than looking to a fixed standard (in this example stated in the first sentence of this post) .
Thurmond
Very well stated Thurmond. Hogs cause tremendous damage in my area and are considered pests that taste good. I agree that game should be taken as quickly and humanely as possible but these horrible pests should be killed as efficiently as possible. They are very smart pests and difficult to hunt. If dogs make the process more efficient then dogs it is. From my point of view this is pest control no different than blasting starlings. That said, parading around displaying the animals is very poor taste and damaging to hunting rights.
Not entirely true. Where an air gun company makes a video of one of their shooters cornering a pig and shooting it with a .177 break barrel in effect saying 'you can do this too!' - HIGHLY unethical. But when an experienced hunter undertakes the time and effort in research and practice to make a clean a kill with a break barrel then it's not unethical. This shot may look easy but this guy put a TON of hours into prep for taking this pig w/a .22 break barrel. Would not take the shot if the weather wasn't right, the angle wasn't right, etc. I think that's a failing point for many shooters. They know the ethical thing to do but don't want to lose the opportunity of a less than perfect shot so they take it anyway. Wrong."fuznut"Furthermore! ha. Anyone who promotes the taking of pigs with a pellet gun.( big bore and arrow excluded)
Is in my opinion not only unethical but just plain ignorant.
You've lost me there. Its proven that airguns of proper caliber and fpe are very capable of cleanly taking hogs with brain shots. Rimfires are generally illegal for deer because rimfires are the prefered choice of deer poachers due to their relative quiteness and short of shining deer in the eyes, deer don't often hold their heads still enough for brain shots. As proof, I offer you Florida's laws, which ban rimfires and airguns for deer but allows rimfires and air guns for hogs. Hogs don't bob their heads all around like deer and the policy makers understand that."fuznut"glengiles I can kill a deer with a 22 far easier, than a pig with a pellet gun.
Shooting deer with a 22 is illegal. Because law makers realize just because you can
is not justification for doing so. If ( the air gun community) can not, or will not sound
off against view points as flawed as yours, then sweeping far more restrictive laws are
soon to follow. And I must admit they are probably needed.