N/A 💢 Talk me into KEEPING a .25cal PCP! — What does .25cal do that .22cal can't?

[BlackICE]

If you have a 22 that can shoot heavy slugs >25g at 900 fps or faster then you don't really need at 25 the 22 slugs will do almost everything a 25 can do. A 22 shooting <=18g pellets at 900 fps isn't a substitute for a 25 when you have raccoons to terminate. It would limit you to ideal shot placements with little margin for errors.

I have a 177 can 25 and I do find the 177 a PITA to load compared the the ease with the 25.

 

[Perle]

Why do you need to mutilate your quarry ?? A kill is a kill.

Who are you trying to impress?

I’m not being flip I just don’t understand.

I use .25 for Iguana though its been awhile. It’s a preference as I have .22 with equal fpe and I still gravitate toward .25.

 

[Scotty1]

Seriously:
Talk me into KEEPING a .25cal PCP!

What does .25cal do that .22cal can't?​

I wanted a gun that trashes the feral pigeons in a spectacular manner.
But no hollow point or slug I have tried — even at 60+ FPE — could accomplish that.


So, now I have a .25cal P2
Prophet II Compact Performance
with 500mm RPB [slug] barrel—
and I wonder what I should use this gun for....
What does my .25cal do that my .22cal P1
Prophet I Compact Performance
with 400mm CZ barrel
does not...?


Help me out — am I missing something?

Maybe I AM missing something — because I have noted a lot of airgunners that buy
compact .25cal PCPs.

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Pigeons out to 100y:
Both P1 and P2 shoot with precision, and they shoot slugs. Dead is dead.

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Bigger game:
In Peru we don't get to shoot much bigger game than ducks, hares, and vizcachas:
Both P1 and P2 would kill them fine. Dead is dead.

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Long range shooting — say 200y:
The P1 will do OK out to 100y.
On my first try the P2 did a pretty good group with ATP Smooth slugs.
But the 500 compact barrel seems a limitation....

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Better BC:
What surprised me is that .25cal pellets usually don't have a better BC than .22cal pellets (the .25 Heavy dome at 33.95gr being the exception).
So, no big advantage there....

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What am I forgetting?



What does my .25cal do that my .22cal does not...?

Thanks,

Matthias

If it were me, I’d sell one and buy a long barrel of of your caliber choice with some of the proceeds. I’m partial to .22 and it has all the energy I need. I also prefer the simplicity and robustness of the P1 valve. Both the RPB and the LR barrels are available for around $250 if you can ship to Peru.

 

[Nomadic Pirate 66]

In today's world with the current ammo choice unless you are looking for a .25 to make in excess of 100 FPE honestly I would stick to .22.

 

[bdzjlz]

I have several of each, and fortunately or unfortunately, I love them all. But if I could only have one, it would be in .22. With ammo and technological advances, the .22 will do everything I need it to do in either a killing or target situation.

More ammo choices, flatter trajectory, etc.

 

[JungleShooter]

What some of you mentioned helped me reconsider —
.22cal gets more shots per fill —
and
is quieter(!).

And both of those are concerns to me....



.25cal
I have a pigeon session coming up and will try to put some of your advice to the test: Maybe the .25cal Hybrids will come through for me after all. — If I could just have the Halos! — then this thread might never have come to existence.


.22cal
I also will try some Altaros slugs in the .22cal at 200y — to compare their performance to the .25cal. — If they're about even, my .25cal lost it's only real edge over my .22cal....


Matthias

 

[JungleShooter]

If it were me, I’d sell one and buy a long barrel of of your caliber choice with some of the proceeds. I’m partial to .22 and it has all the energy I need. I also prefer the simplicity and robustness of the P1 valve. Both the RPB and the LR barrels are available for around $250 if you can ship to Peru.

Scotty,

I bought these guns as COMPACT guns for a good reason....

However, if this .25cal gun does not do what I bought it for, I probably will go off on the deep end to make sure I don't choose caliber and barrel length wrongly again:
9mm caliber bullpup, with 800mm barrel —
nope, I won't leave anything to chance anymore.....

Matthias

 

[Scotty1]

Understood, I was simply pointing out another option.