It seems the old adage No good deeds go unpunished is still true…such a shame it so difficult to trust people. I applaud 
all of you who have been punished.
all of you who have been punished.
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Josh3rd THIEF!!
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*added clarification, we are talking about douger, not josh*
Same guy solicited a wtb ad and sent me an item that absolutely was not what I asked for. Then got upset when I wanted my money back. Offered to return it but kept fussing. Told me to keep it but did send my money back. Just plain odd behavior. And frankly, immature.
Have had him blocked since then.
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All of my transactions were flawless,The risks for me now out weigh the benefits. Sad for sure. Bill
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I always hear about criminals not being particularly smart.
$37.90 to ship some 2x4s. Coulda done it for $16 with Pirate Ship.
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Very sorry to hear about this. Nobody gets away with anything, some may think so, but in a matter of time; Time wins and you have to pay for your deception.
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Maybe his Pro Sport was long gone when you made him the offer. He sold it months ago to support whatever needs supporting. So he felt obligated to send you something you paid for. He could have sent you a bag of sand to pound. Now you have two of the most expensive pieces of pine ever sold.
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The 4x4’s were to act as the weight of the item being sent so the recipient wouldn’t get suspicious while the money was sent
Had it done to me before by an eBay seller, sent a big clump of paper to act as a weight
Never send things F&F
It’s a transaction
Had it done to me before by an eBay seller, sent a big clump of paper to act as a weight
Never send things F&F
It’s a transaction
I’ve bought and sold on here with no issues. This guy has been on here since 2015 and has no feedback score. I’m sorry you got scammed, I hate a thief. But you have to be carful, most of the guys on here are legit.
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Someone might have mentioned this already, but contact the Postal Inspection Service if you haven't yet.
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Wow, Lewis...really sorry this happened to you. I've bought and sold A LOT of stuff online over the years and have had this happen on eBay a couple of times. They send something of comparable weight to show that your item in supposedly on its way to you. It cost him almost $40 out of his stolen funds to send the wood but if he had sent a 13oz parcel for $5 or even a medium flat rate box for $15, your suspicions would've been raised well before the package got to you. Regardless, it sucks all the way around so sorry to hear of this.
Regarding Douger, I've bought, sold and traded with him so many times and have left him a lot of good feedback here because he always came through for me. I've probably purchased 3x $2000 rifles from him without any issues. I was wondering where he's been - so it's sad to see that he went to the dark side recently.
I was also contacted by another member about a seller (arubino19) I'd done several deals with that has since gone bad. I'd bought several basically new Impacts from him without any problems and was literally minutes from sending him another $2600 when he texted me back and said that he'd gotten another offer higher than mine so he was going to sell to that buyer. Weeks later, that rifle package never showed up. At the request of the other buyer, I reached out to arubino19 to see what happened...he ignored my texts. About a month before that, he asked me to front him the funds to purchase another M3 until he got the funds from some other sales, after which he'd pay me back. He even offeredd to pay interest for getting the advance on the funds; my spidey senses were all tingly on this so i politely declined the offer. I literally dodged a couple of bullets on that one as his account has now been locked.
The thing both Douger and arubino19 had in common was that both stated that they had lots of serious health issues and, therefore, lots of medical bills. Perhaps it got to the point where the expenses became too much and they had to resort to desperate measures. Or maybe the worst case scenario is that the health issues got worse. Any way you look at it, it's sad...
Regarding Douger, I've bought, sold and traded with him so many times and have left him a lot of good feedback here because he always came through for me. I've probably purchased 3x $2000 rifles from him without any issues. I was wondering where he's been - so it's sad to see that he went to the dark side recently.
I was also contacted by another member about a seller (arubino19) I'd done several deals with that has since gone bad. I'd bought several basically new Impacts from him without any problems and was literally minutes from sending him another $2600 when he texted me back and said that he'd gotten another offer higher than mine so he was going to sell to that buyer. Weeks later, that rifle package never showed up. At the request of the other buyer, I reached out to arubino19 to see what happened...he ignored my texts. About a month before that, he asked me to front him the funds to purchase another M3 until he got the funds from some other sales, after which he'd pay me back. He even offeredd to pay interest for getting the advance on the funds; my spidey senses were all tingly on this so i politely declined the offer. I literally dodged a couple of bullets on that one as his account has now been locked.
The thing both Douger and arubino19 had in common was that both stated that they had lots of serious health issues and, therefore, lots of medical bills. Perhaps it got to the point where the expenses became too much and they had to resort to desperate measures. Or maybe the worst case scenario is that the health issues got worse. Any way you look at it, it's sad...
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It’s easy to be a good person when things are going good in life. Not many can maintain good scruples when things are going bad. On the rare occasion I “lend” money to a friend, I don’t plan on getting it back and consider it a gift. Much easier to accept if they don’t pay it back.
"For loan oft loses both itself and friend, And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry."
"For loan oft loses both itself and friend, And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry."
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My first deal in AGN..was with him years ago he sent me the gun .. but not the sumo that was in the deal , package was in perfect condition, he told me that maybe it was lost in transit, but the package was not open in any way..he did the same with a sumo to another member, that doesn't post anymore..a side from this I have not had a inconvenient with any other transactions..really good members here..
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this is new to me , first off the usual order is pay and then item ships once pay is received , this guy played a long con for a few hundred or simply went off the deep end and hit everyone in his life , but i never seen the 2x4 or fake weight thing before , because if someone was going to keep your money they get it before the item ships anyway so no need to fake package anything
as for F&F PP , i stopped using PP when they divorced for eBay because thats when PP made the shift from protecting buyers to protecting sellers at all cost because thats where their fees are generated , i was ripped off and PP hung me out , one and done , no second chance , so F&F came after i was already done with PP
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its very sad this happened to a obvious good natured person , because it tends to erode at that increasingly rare trait thats already in such short supply these days
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Eternity would pass before any explanation could justify. Blind can see that. Not intrested in any reply nor willing to except any excuses from a person guilty of such behavior.
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He recently tried to friend request me on Facebook. Most likely to try and take advantage of my kindness. Glad I didn’t accept.
So sorry Lewis.
So sorry Lewis.
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FYI Doug is in the hospital after having back surgery on Sept 18th and a heart attack a couple of days ago. I reached out to him after reading your post and his wife updated me.
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Lewis, I feel bad for you. 99% of my feedback in the classifieds is as a buyer and I've established some connections over the years and repeat dealings with some long-term members. Once or twice I reached out to a seller I knew and said that if the item were still available by xx day I would buy it. They sent it and said to pay them on the day I could.
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