Thanks X27, it is nothing serious, just doing a 7 day trial of a nerve stimulator, they place the leads in the spine next to the nerves that are causing the problems, if it works they do a 2nd procedure and install the leads permanently and place the stimulator in the back. I tried a similar procedure 2 years ago and it did not work, but my new specialist thinks this new technology will work where the old type didn't, so I am keeping my fingers crossed, this is my last chance, if this fails I have no more options but pain meds for the rest of my life. I should still be able to work after a days rest, so I still might be able to run something before Xmas, I will keep you all informed, I might just have to limit it to the first 5 people or something along those lines so keep watch of this section, Neil.