I think I have it narrowed down between the Athlon Talos BTR Gen 2 4-14x44 and the Element Helix 4-16x44. This will be going on my new AirMaks Caiman X .22 cal that I have coming. I have an Arken SH-4 Gen 2 4-16x50 that I could use but its a fat pig and think it will be too heavy for this small bull-pup. I will mainly be shooting 50 yards max, targets and pest. $450 is about all I want to spend on this scope for this set up. I'm pretty sure I have my mind made up between these two but am open to suggestions. Thanks for the help.
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Help deciding between two scopes.
- Thread starter lewis2121
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what about the new arken EPL4?
its a 30mm tube and the 4-16 is 24oz
i am eyeing one to join my sh4 lol
its a 30mm tube and the 4-16 is 24oz
i am eyeing one to join my sh4 lol
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I knew someone would mention this one. I wouldn't mind getting one of these but they show 6 to 8 weeks out. I don't think I want to wait that long.
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I’ve had both athlon and element and have had both fail me but it was when athlon first started (I just purchased another athlon to give it a go). At 50 yards max go with the cheaper model in my opinion because they will both do everything you need at that distance. Hawks is a great company as well just a FYI and are a great bang for your buck.
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Good luck getting one, my buddy has had a 4-16 on order since the end of December. I’ve had the 6-24 on order since January
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Why is taken so long for you to get an Arken. I bought an ep5 off Amazon and had it within 4 days. They show the other models in stock with fast free shipping. Perhaps they cost more like this.
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Ha I didn't realize Athlon came out with a G2 with improved turrets, a zero stop, and is now available in MOA!!!
I just gave my oldest Talos 4-14 to a friend but I'll know which way to go for a less expensive scope next time I need one. This .2 mil reticle has always been my favorite tree reticle of any scope I've seen in this price range.
Another suggestion is trying the Heras 2-12. Inside 50Y for hunting and plinking it's a good pick and the glass is exceptional since its SFP and higher up in quality. Plus you can see the reticle full sized at 2x.
I just gave my oldest Talos 4-14 to a friend but I'll know which way to go for a less expensive scope next time I need one. This .2 mil reticle has always been my favorite tree reticle of any scope I've seen in this price range.
Another suggestion is trying the Heras 2-12. Inside 50Y for hunting and plinking it's a good pick and the glass is exceptional since its SFP and higher up in quality. Plus you can see the reticle full sized at 2x.
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Well thanks everyone for the input, but after a whole day of research and thinking on it I decided to put the Arken EPL 4-16x44 light weight on pre-order. It's really the one that checked all the boxes for me this time. I absolutely hate having to wait for it but I know I will regret it when it comes out if I got something now just because its available. I just hope that the 6-8 week lead times are accurate and not longer. I guess I will just put one of my red dots I have laying around on it until it comes in, I can then at least plink around and get a feel for the new Camin X coming. Thanks again.
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I should do my homework first before spouting off. I have to say though is it worth waiting this long for these scopes? One day soon there will be an abundance of them and you'll be able to buy a used one here possibly.
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I have a Helix 4-16 I will never sell. I think its one of the best scopes you can use on a pcp. Not too heavy, pretty good glass, really good turrets (although not as good as the full size Arkens) and very user friendly. I have the new Arken EPL4 but havent had a chance to test it out yet.
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I have the Arken ELP4 on my Daystate and it is a really good fit, physically on the rifle (not too big and heavy) and perfect for the capabilities of the Air Wolf .22
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A lot of you rave about Element scopes. Maybe it's because of their attachement to FX, but you can't beat an Athlon Midas-Tac 6-24X50. The eyebox on the Elements is much too restrictive for me. I even like the Arken scopes much better. I'm waiting delivery of the new Athlon Heras today. Can't wait to compare it with the Midas and the Arken.
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I looked through one last week, a Heras that is, and I believe that you will be well pleased with it.
The resolution on the one that I looked through was impressive, and chromatic aberration was non existent.
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Arken make some lovely scopes, but have a look at a Delta Javelin if you can…
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Richard starts talking about it at 14:30
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