Hi guys new to the forum .just picked up a vintage crosman model 84 challenger and thought this might be the place to find a little info. anything would be great thanks jeff
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crosman model 84 challenger
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https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/articles/203361054-84-Owner-s-Manual-1985-1992-
it was a pricey rifle back in it's day, last MSR was 1295.00 and today in 100% around 950.00
but with that said, parts could be a real problem and with an electronic trigger, Crosman doesn't even show a parts diagram
also it is bulk filled tanks and the go over that in the owner manual
so good luck and post your findings
all I found never seen or owned one
it was a pricey rifle back in it's day, last MSR was 1295.00 and today in 100% around 950.00
but with that said, parts could be a real problem and with an electronic trigger, Crosman doesn't even show a parts diagram
also it is bulk filled tanks and the go over that in the owner manual
so good luck and post your findings
all I found never seen or owned one
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Congrats on your find. They are rare, indeed, and represent Crosman's attempt to enter the serious 10M market. Unfortunately, neither the 84 nor the Skanaker pistol (1988) were ever successful against the European competition. Crosman changed ownership and direction during this time period and never really supported the products on the international stage. They didn't have star power shooters to showcase them. The timing was bad as they came on the market as new offerings at just about the time that CO2 was about to be displaced by the first pcps.
The 84 is a unique design and incorporates new ideas with sights, triggers, barrels and other parts purchased from one of the best German makers. I doubt that you have the electronic trigger as it was optional and the standard Anschutz trigger is about perfect. If you have a 20lb tank, filling the CO2 cylinders is pretty easy. The only problem I have had is with the digital pressure readout. The board supporting it often fails and has to be repaired or replaced. In fact, it is a complicated solution to a problem that didn't really exist as CO2 is pretty much self-regulating at room temperature. Perhaps it was intended to replace counting shots, but since shooters used match packs it wasn't really necessary.
Enjoy your fine rifle. It is a great shooter and quite collectable. You might even want to find a Skanaker to go with it. The Skanaker goes for around 450-500 USD and the rifle, if working properly for well over 1000.
The 84 is a unique design and incorporates new ideas with sights, triggers, barrels and other parts purchased from one of the best German makers. I doubt that you have the electronic trigger as it was optional and the standard Anschutz trigger is about perfect. If you have a 20lb tank, filling the CO2 cylinders is pretty easy. The only problem I have had is with the digital pressure readout. The board supporting it often fails and has to be repaired or replaced. In fact, it is a complicated solution to a problem that didn't really exist as CO2 is pretty much self-regulating at room temperature. Perhaps it was intended to replace counting shots, but since shooters used match packs it wasn't really necessary.
Enjoy your fine rifle. It is a great shooter and quite collectable. You might even want to find a Skanaker to go with it. The Skanaker goes for around 450-500 USD and the rifle, if working properly for well over 1000.
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thanks for the info so far guys . my rifle has no sights and from the info I have found so far they where Anschutz .does anyone know what the part number for these would be and where I might find some ? thanks again any other info would be great
Jeff
Jeff
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so more reading on the crosman 84 tells you there was maybe 100 of the rifles made and no more, making them very rare
https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2008/03/10-meter-rifles-part-4-used-10-meter-rifles/
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/americanvintageairguns/my-first-cr-84-challenger-t4915.html?
http://jga.anschuetz-sport.com/index.php5?menu=366&sprache=1
the rear sight looks like a an Anschutz 6705 / 6706
you can find the rear sight on Ebay
info is hard to find, parts will be next to impossible to find but it will be always a collectable rifle if it shoots or not, of course sight might be the easy part but not cheap
they could be found on Egun in Germany I'm looking right now
one other thing you can use a 5 pound co2 bottle to bulk fill with
so after looking some more the sight appear to be the same as on a late model LG250
if you look down on this page you will see the pictures, about 55% down the page
https://forum.vintageairgunsgallery.com/anschutz/anschutz/#post-468
https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2008/03/10-meter-rifles-part-4-used-10-meter-rifles/
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/americanvintageairguns/my-first-cr-84-challenger-t4915.html?
http://jga.anschuetz-sport.com/index.php5?menu=366&sprache=1
the rear sight looks like a an Anschutz 6705 / 6706
you can find the rear sight on Ebay
info is hard to find, parts will be next to impossible to find but it will be always a collectable rifle if it shoots or not, of course sight might be the easy part but not cheap
they could be found on Egun in Germany I'm looking right now
one other thing you can use a 5 pound co2 bottle to bulk fill with
so after looking some more the sight appear to be the same as on a late model LG250
if you look down on this page you will see the pictures, about 55% down the page
https://forum.vintageairgunsgallery.com/anschutz/anschutz/#post-468
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marflow the last two pictures of the Lg 380 look like the rear sight another fellow sent me of his that he said was original a 6834 but the front sight does look more like the one on the Lg280.also there is a lot of parts to the stock that look just like the model 84 like the recoil pad and what I think is the sling rail under the fore arm and trigger. also I think I read about parts off the 380 being used. a guy in berlin has a 6834 for sale that looks like the one I am told is correct , with the silver knobs like the Lg 380 in the pic. The guy that said he has an original gun and sights said that the correct front sight does not have the two screws in the fornt bottom which he says is used to rotate I guess the inserts.?
Just want to thank you for putting so much time in helping me again
Jeff.
Just want to thank you for putting so much time in helping me again
Jeff.
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A friend of mine has acquired a Mod 84 that needs a bit of sorting. Can somebody confirm if the threads for the adjustment control are metric or imperial (USA)
Thanks
Thanks
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