So has anyone used both of these products? Reason I'm asking is something I'm quite curious about. I've used Ballistol for years on airguns and seems to have been a good product and cleaned well. But based on Tom from AAAs recommendation to others I think who were using slugs on best barrel cleaner, I tried shooters choice lead remover. My Evol barrel is 10.5", polished from factory and not choked. 4 groove and probably the only barrel I've owned that been so smooth and consitent. Typical cleaning is 3 patches usually of ballistol with a dry and it's clean. I used the lead remover and I think took me close to 10-12 patches? Had lots of lead come off also. Makes me wonder if the Ballistol has really worked that well before? I've shot slugs through the gun a few times off and on through ownership but not much maybe 100-200 total in the 1.5yrs. But never had that much lead. Unless the JTS pellets I've been shooting lately is leaving lead behind being a harder alloy than JSBs I've been used to shooting? I'm not sure but I did notice lots of lead this time even so that I used a bronze brush to clean after 8 or so patches seeing the lead come out.