Mark, I guess I shouldn't get you started on the WALTHER LGV in .177 then. I chose it over the Air Arms due to it's longer barrel and higher velocity for FT and small game. I did put in the tuning trigger. That and the open sights are the only faults of the gun out of the box. Amazing little gun. From time to time, you can get them super cheap through Airgun Depot in the refurbished section. got mine for 400.00 refurbished like new in box condition. Guess I shouldn't tempt you. I did look at this gun for way over a year before I bought it. I have several PCP guns and this is the only one that interested me because of the accuracy reviews from The Airgun Gear Show. Oh, and also. I am shooting a standard Leupold scope on it with no damage to it so far. Have about two tins through it at the moment. The recoil is very smooth, I doubt it will harm and quality scope. I am using UTG mounts with no scope stops on it. So far, no shift in POI and no loose mounts. Great little gun. Oh, it is also on the heavy side . but well managed.